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Abraham vs Taylor: Jermain Says "I Will Not Surrender"

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
    That's not a hometown decision, it's just pure incompetence, and is as likely to happen in favour of either fighter. And a very high proportion of the worst cards happen in the US.
    Sure, a lot of the worst cards happen in the US. Calling it "just pure incompetence" is a little naive, my friend. Somebody is often in somebody's pocket when that stuff goes down, you and I know it.

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    • #32
      20k on Abraham over Taylor for whoever wants it.

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      • #33
        Taylor wont surrender...I believe that... But I do see him getting KOd! Gonna be a good ass fight

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Hitman932 View Post
          I don't think he has to keep a high work rate per se.

          He just needs to keep his left hand busy. I think this is a fight where he should throw at least 40 jabs and no more than 8-10 right hands per round. When he isn't punching he should be able to maintain distance with movement and a jab here or there.

          Throwing a ****load of jabs won't wear him out nearly as much as all the right hands he missed against Froch. If he is smart and disciplined he should be able to throw more punches and expend less energy than in previous fights.
          I agree. He needs to focus on simply trying to outbox him. He has the skill, height, and reach to do so. All his opponents make the mistake of getting careless by ****ing away at him since he lures people in to do just that. They get comfortable doing so since he isn't throwing back but he'll then pick his spots when his opponent is in range and unleash some big punches.

          He should throw a few solid combinations to steal the rounds and use the remaining time to jab him from the outside. In shouldn't be that hard considering Abraham doesn't pressure.

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          • #35
            this should be a good fight..taylor's boxing ability and height should make it interesting..if JT can maintain a good jab and dictate the pace, then he should win..we'll see if taylor can stay fresh enough to not gas out and get flopped in the later rounds..

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            • #36
              I pick Taylor by UD or possibly a late rd TKO

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              • #37
                Originally posted by KJB View Post
                Sure, a lot of the worst cards happen in the US. Calling it "just pure incompetence" is a little naive, my friend. Somebody is often in somebody's pocket when that stuff goes down, you and I know it.
                Showtime is financing this, so that's irrelevant in this case.

                And with a tiny number of exceptions, it's pure speculation to claim that judges have been paid to make bad decisions. To accept bribes (which that would amount to) is a felony and any judges that this could be proved against would go to jail for a very long prison term.

                Sure it probably happens more often than has been proved, but to pretend it explains every case of bad judging, or to pretend that you know when it did happen and when it was just a case of incompetence, is ridiculous. That type of extreme cynicism is just as naive as a total lack of cynicism. Both extremes are naive. The world is not black and white. ****-up is far more common than conspiracy.

                In any case, if the judges were being bribed in this fight, then given Taylor's US following, they would be just as likely to be bribed in Taylor's favour as in Abraham's favour. So I still say that the people claiming that Taylor can't win unless he gets a KO are using a lame crybaby excuse.
                Last edited by Dave Rado; 10-06-2009, 01:15 PM.

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                • #38
                  ive heard that before jt....just do it...learn to clinch a bit......once jt gets past aa, he's good to go.....he beats both ward and dirrell imo and i dont think froch will be in the finals....kessler will be his toughest tho....

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                  • #39
                    If Taylor can focus on boxing, he can get a UD, BUT Taylor likes to apply his offense when he gets going. He's not going to fight for points. He'll take the fight to Abraham and that's exactly what Abraham will be waiting for. i just can't see Taylor avoiding a counter from AA in the middle to late rounds. Plus, i think Abraham will bring the power up to SMW. that being said,

                    Abraham by knockout.

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                    • #40
                      Gonna be a close fight, i think taylor is going to use absolutly everything hes got to win this fight, this is really his last chance to still be taken seriously. Im hoping for a taylor victory for this but im edging towards aa

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