Comments Thread For: Shields: Charlo Has To Just Not Think About The Judges, How They're Scoring Canelo Fight

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Of course Charlo will be thinking about the judges. He’s stepping in the ring with the man who has received the most absurd scorecards in his favor in the entire history of the sport.

In the entire history of the sport?

Naw. That’s bullshlt you just made up.

Canelo has never been gifted a win in a fight that wasn’t close where he clearly lost.

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Pillow Fist Shields, who hasn’t scored a stoppage in 6 years, and who still fights like an amateur, is now giving advice lol. How Shields, who’s trained by John Jackson, a very good boxer in his own right, can fight so amateurish, is beyond me.

Pillow Fist and McCaskill should take time to learn boxing fundamentals.

Wrong Shields!!!! You didn't read a SINGLE WORD of the article!!!!! You incinerated yourself with that one.

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In the entire history of the sport?

Naw. That’s bullshlt you just made up.

Canelo has never been gifted a win in a fight that wasn’t close where he clearly lost.

You should learn to read better. I said he’s received the most absurd scorecards in the history of the sport. I didn’t say gift wins although he’s very fortunate ti only have 2 looses in his record because he really could have 4. A judge gave him: 10 rounds to 2 vs trout. A draw vs floyd. 9 rounds to 3 vs Lara. 11 rounds to 1 vs Cotto. 10 rounds to 2 in the first match with ggg. Those scores are so far off from what actually happened in the ring, it can’t be chalked up to mere incompetence. Now go on and name a fighter with more ridiculous scorecards than what I mentioned above. Mind you I’m not even including the fact that the judges had it extremely close in his fight vs bivol where canelo barely won a round.

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You should learn to read better. I said he’s received the most absurd scorecards in the history of the sport. I didn’t say gift wins although he’s very fortunate ti only have 2 looses in his record because he really could have 4. A judge gave him: 10 rounds to 2 vs trout. A draw vs floyd. 9 rounds to 3 vs Lara. 11 rounds to 1 vs Cotto. 10 rounds to 2 in the first match with ggg. Those scores are so far off from what actually happened in the ring, it can’t be chalked up to mere incompetence. Now go on and name a fighter with more ridiculous scorecards than what I mentioned above. Mind you I’m not even including the fact that the judges had it extremely close in his fight vs bivol where canelo barely won a round.

So you agree that gift wins aren’t an issue with Canelo?

What do the scorecards even matter, then? As long as the right guy is winning the fights.

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So you agree that gift wins aren’t an issue with Canelo?

What do the scorecards even matter, then? As long as the right guy is winning the fights.

what do scorecards matter? Because guys weren’t given any shot of beating him by decision due to the biased scoring and he very well could’ve/should’ve lost twice to ggg and to Lara. But the favorable scoring helped him out. So yes, Charlo has every reason to be concerned about the scoring and yes, nobody in the history of boxing has received more favorable scoring from judges than Canelo.

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what do scorecards matter? Because guys weren’t given any shot of beating him by decision due to the biased scoring and he very well could’ve/should’ve lost twice to ggg and to Lara. But the favorable scoring helped him out. So yes, Charlo has every reason to be concerned about the scoring and yes, nobody in the history of boxing has received more favorable scoring from judges than Canelo.

You can’t change it up now and claim he should have lost fights. You just said that gift wins weren’t your complaint.

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You can’t change it up now and claim he should have lost fights. You just said that gift wins weren’t your complaint.

Im not changing anything up. I said that I didn’t say gift wins, because in all of his terrible scorecards (and my statement about getting the most favorable scorecards in history), I also referenced fights I thought he won. Such as trout and Cotto, although those fights were much closer than the judges had it. He had the draw card vs mayweather and extremely close cards with bivol, but he still lost, so can’t say that was a gift win. I do think he got a gift draw and win vs ggg and I personally didn’t think he beat Lara either. So again, as I said, most favorable cards in boxing history and clearly you can’t combat that.

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Im not changing anything up. I said that I didn’t say gift wins, because in all of his terrible scorecards (and my statement about getting the most favorable scorecards in history), I also referenced fights I thought he won. Such as trout and Cotto, although those fights were much closer than the judges had it. He had the draw card vs mayweather and extremely close cards with bivol, but he still lost, so can’t say that was a gift win. I do think he got a gift draw and win vs ggg and I personally didn’t think he beat Lara either. So again, as I said, most favorable cards in boxing history and clearly you can’t combat that.

There have been a lot of fights and a lot of judges’ cards in boxing history. You can’t possibly prove that Canelo has had the most favorable of all of them. Unless you have looked at every single card since the beginning of professional gloved boxing?

If gift wins are a non-issue in Canelo’s career (as you agree) then worrying about him getting favorable cards is much ado about nothing. Charlo doesn’t have to worry about getting robbed of a win, as long as he can really beat him like Floyd and Bivol did.

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There have been a lot of fights and a lot of judges’ cards in boxing history. You can’t possibly prove that Canelo has had the most favorable of all of them. Unless you have looked at every single card since the beginning of professional gloved boxing?

If gift wins are a non-issue in Canelo’s career (as you agree) then worrying about him getting favorable cards is much ado about nothing. Charlo doesn’t have to worry about getting robbed of a win, as long as he can really beat him like Floyd and Bivol did.

Gift wins aren’t a non issue because he’s received some. But the overall issue is regardless of how he fights, regardless if he deserves to win or not, he consistently gets the benefit of the doubt from judges. So yes, anyone who faces him is worried about getting screwed because judges have shown him blatantly favoritism. As far as him being the boxer to get the most ridiculous scorecards in their career……Ok, name 1 boxer that you think comes
close to getting the type of ridiculous scorecards I referenced for Canelo. Name the boxer and the scores they received in different fights. If you can’t, then my point stands.

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Ronnie Shields was Jermell Charlo's trainer when Shields led Erislandy Lara into his 12-round, 155-pound non-title fight against Canelo Alvarez.
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He doesn’t have to worry about the judges. He’ll QUIT far before the end.