Comments Thread For: Warren on Zhang-Joyce Rematch: Loser Could Take Two Years to Get Back Into Title Contention

[Eff Pandas]

Yea I tend to agree. Not many tip top guys are gonna want to fight an old guy that hits like a truck that they don't have to fight. Hell idk if the winner sees a belt fight within 2yrs either tbh.

[Boro]

That does not make, a Champion is exempt in fighting professional boxers or Top-10 fighters.

Tyson Fury is being held to a low standard. He was held to a low standard before he was Champion, and now that has continued into his reign.

His hardcore fans may make excuses, but this game is real 'Fury should be fighting at a level. If he was training under Peter Fury, I suspect Peter Fury would disagree with how Fury is behaving as a Champion. Because potentially when and if he ever fights at Elite level again, his preparation and experience is definitively going to be lacking.

Note: Fury is a not a experience fighter at World or Elite level, nowhere near as experienced as Joshua or Usyk overall in boxing etc.

I'm certainly not making excuses for Fury, I think he's a bum for not fighting decent opposition quite frankly, but that doesn’t change the fact people need to be consistent with their critiques otherwise it just seems like an agenda.

And I agree with your sentiments in regards to Peter, Peter and Shane seem to be the only honest ones in their family despite his history.

P.S. I don't use the word bum lightly either but Fury is really getting on my nerves with his antics, disrespect of the sport and holding up the division as a whole.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I'm certainly not making excuses for Fury, I think he's a bum for not fighting decent opposition quite frankly, but that doesn’t change the fact people need to be consistent with their critiques otherwise it just seems like an agenda.

And I agree with your sentiments in regards to Peter, Peter and Shane seem to be the only honest ones in their family despite his history.

Well yes Peter and Shane Fury are real when it comes to fighting 'But I would value Peter Fury's views more on boxing'.

Tyson Fury is not training under Peter Fury no more, but? From all the interviews I have seen with Peter Fury, his observations and knowledge of the game 'I don't think he would agree with Fury's current behaviors, Fury may have regressed as a fighter far more than we know'.

But nobody will know for sure how much, because really he has not be fighting at a level 'Not even stylistically has Fury been challenging himself for sometime'.

Wilder was a elite level fight, but stylistically outside of his power 'Fury really in my opinion? Should of made that trilogy much easier for himself than he did'.

Does Wilder deck Fury 4-5 times, if he was training under Peter Fury? For all the people who protest the first Wilder fight, the facts are Fury did not win that fight 'Fury was backed up all night, and decked twice once badly. That is not how you win World titles'.

Mate, people can make excuses for Tyson Fury. They can all back whatever he says, or whatever moves he wants to make. But we both know mate, that greater more proven fighters than Tyson Fury to date 'They have all been found out, dethroned, or beaten badly at some point in their careers' And these have all been fighters who were consistently fighting at a level.

All of Fury's nearest competition, are fighting at a higher level than he is 'They are all targeting Tyson Fury, Fury is on every-bodies radar'.

Everyone is preparing for when they meet Tyson Fury, whether it is just a ambition 'It does not matter, that is the situation when you are the so called Heavyweight King'.

Note: I just think compared to past great Champions, Fury is not preparing for his nearest competition optimally 'Fury may be naturally more gifted, and he may have certain dimensions in his favor, but he is potentially and theoretically playing a very dangerous game with his nearest competition at Heavyweight'.

I think what I am trying to highlight, is 'The eye of the Tiger'. Tyson Fury right now as we speak, can be compared to Rocky Balboa in Rocky 3 pre Clubber Lang I. Yes some people may say Rocky 3 is just cinema, but the topic is a legitimate situation.

I believe one of Fury's brothers, has alluded to it ? 'That Tyson Fury as a Champion, does not have 'The Eye of the Tiger'. And this is why he does not rate Fury as a great Heavyweight Champion. And in his own words has stated that Fury much prefers being a underdog and was much better a as a fighter in some aspect when he was not a Champion'.

Fury, Usyk, Joshua and Wilder. All of these fighters may all be the latter stages of their careers and regressing, but in my opinion 'Usyk & Joshua still have The Eye of the Tiger' and outside of the top-4 heavyweights, many fighters all targeting Tyson Fury have 'The Eye of the Tiger' etc.

[Boro]

But nobody will know for sure how much, because really he has not be fighting at a level 'Not even stylistically has Fury been challenging himself for sometime'.

He hasn't fought a decent opponent since Wlad as far as i'm concerned.

Wilder has two real abilities that is to close the gap extremely quickly and his power but that's not really an ability but god given.

But luckily for him these two attributes have been enough to keep him around at a reasonable level albeit against mediocre opposition.

Truthfully and i’ve thought this for a looong time now he went to sugar hill not because he wanted to change his style but out of necessity, I feel the booze and ******* caught up to him and he can no longer do the herky jerky shít at least not at the elite level hence his hesitancy when it comes to the Usyk fight because Usyks feet will likely be too good for the mauling to work.