Comments Thread For: Shakur Stevenson: "I Never Seen Anybody More B-tch Made Than Frank Martin"

[gooderz84]

Bout time fighters turned the heat up on their own promoters if they want to make these cross-channel fights. No use calling Martin a ***** like he's the only obstacle here.

[Tibburon245]

There are other fights to be made for Shakur. Where is Tank in all this?

[Rebelrbg]

There are other fights to be made for Shakur. Where is Tank in all this?

Exactly, Tank said that he wanted Shakur and Haney after the Ryan fight, but Shakur said that he wanted Haney first, because it would make the Tank fight bigger later. After Stevenson turned down the Devin offer, there was not a word said about the Tank fight.

[Outwest Exp 355]

Shakur wants the smoke with everybody but this is business. What reason does PBC have to throw a top prospect in with a shark that's not even with the company? Seems like that only happens if the fight is big enough or they don't care about a potential loss..

Is Frank Martin a top prospect though? He’s okay but he started boxing really late and is already 28 years old. Chris Mannix was saying Martin was going to earn over a million dollars for this fight. I don’t know how you turn that down at 28.

[jockpunk]

If Frank wanted the fight he could have had it go to purse bid where he would have gotten 40%. He chose not to, simple as that. He clearly did not want the fight.

[hitmanjosh]

After Martin last fight, I can see him losing to much less talent and not securing his future with the payday he would have earned fighting Stevenson. I think he should have taken that aSs whipping fought a few more times and called it a career by 30 or 31 now he may still have to work at Burger King.

[BlackRobb]

Frank Martin never wanted this fight, but let's stop acting like he's the only one at 135 ducking Shakur. Pit Bull, Devin, William Zepeda are all ducking this man.

[tokon]

Frank Martin aside, I said elsewhere but regardless of whether ducked or priced out, the fact is that Shakur refused to accept a fight that would've gotten him the "reward" that would provided the motivation for others to fight him especially if he isn't willing to offer money for reward. Maybe he thought he should get more than what was offered, and as a two division champ he thought he should have the A-side treatment which may be understandable from his side, but the fact right this moment is that he is a beltless fighter who seems to not be willing to offer good money to fight him. He needs to understand his potential opponents get nothing except fight money and a slim possibility to get bragging rights among hardcore fans that they defeated a currently beltless former two division champ but nothing to show at the current weight, while risking losing their zero and losing market value, losing out on a chance for more money in the future, not to mention potentially getting injured.

Like him or not, Haney actually took the time and effort to collect all the belts to become undisputed. His market value is heavy on the fact that he is "the champion who has all the belts in this weight class" and the man to beat to claim the best of the class. If he is going to risk losing all the belts and lowering his market value, he has all the right to try to gain as much as possible. Since Shakur isn't going to have a belt to offer, it is understanding that he will want money instead because in the business world of boxing the bragging rights of "I defeated a beltless former two division champ Shakur" doesn't feed you in public. What Shakur should have done is to suck it up and accepted the Haney fight first to get the belts, then become the top dog by the belts as well as skills at this weight then demand the money.

I mean, Inoue managed to get Fulton for his first first without any belts to offer but instead he offered by far the biggest cash reward that Fulton would only dream of getting fighting anyone else, which made it worth risking losing his belts and zero and status as the man to beat at 122 lbs. Fulton didn't accept to fight Inoue in Japan because he thought Inoue was the top dog and therefore he deserves to fight at his home. He accepted travelling to Japan as the belt holding champ because he got 3-4 million dollars by doing so instead of few hundred thousands fighting random challenger he can beat with ease in Philadelphia. Obviously Frank Martin is no where near the value of where Fulton was, but Shakur is not exactly national cash cow of Inoue's caliber yet either when he is beltless.

Nice post.
Thanks.

[-Kev-]

Wait. So Shakur turned down Devins 25% only to offer Frank 25% and then talk as if he's some sort of cash cow or huge draw? Who does he think he is? Say what you want about Devin, but he took a sh** offer to get the opportunity to become undisputed. Shakur acts entitled as if he's an accomplished or pound for pound. He hasn't fought 1 real threat or brought in big numbers. I hate these entitled divas.

I came here to say the same thing. Frank Martin did to Shakur, what Shakur did to Haney. So maybe this is Shakur’s way of telling us he’s one of the most btch made boxers out there:

Shakur is really looking like Demetrius Andrade right now.

[Bronx23]

Pricing yourself out is a form of ducking.

Haney took the short end of the stick to get a shot at Kambosos. Shakur Stevenson should have done the same to get a shot at Haney, especially since he has no problem offering Frank Martin only 25% of the purse.

Yes it can be a form of ducking, however I don’t believe that Shakur priced himself out because he’s afraid he could lose to Haney. He overpriced himself because he was either ill advised OR he overvalued himself.

anyways the fight never even got to the negotiation stage. 25% was just the standard for the WBC mandatory. Neither side even tried to make a deal past that. Idk why people act like this fight had contracts & sent back and forth. It never even got past the talking stage