if clottey fought jmm at ww....

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  • Kevin Jesus
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    #31
    Originally posted by Mania
    Clottey maybe could've knock him out.
    Clottey hasn't knock anyone out in years. Marquez is one of the toughest fighters to knock out, regardless of weight.

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    • DLT
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      #32
      baracuda, if you dont like Floyd or what he stands for then fine. Thats your opinion but you cant just say crazy things just to say them. You act like because Floyd was gone for 19 months that means he has to start from the bottom like he's some average guy or a bum who has never accomplished anything. Come on now. Clottey was never even conisered to be P4P, let alone P4P like Floyd was for a number of years. Pac is saying right now that he may retire. If he does and then comes back 2 years later to fight a smaller guy who is rated #2 P4P and looks great while doing it, are you saying that he also shouldnt be ranked near the top? These guys are the elite and there is no way you think other guys should really be ranked over Floyd. I mean seriously, who? Half the guys at the top have lost since Floyd retired so its not like they are on these 12 fight hot streaks

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        #33
        Originally posted by tito yuca
        Diego Corrales.
        wasnt that at 140??

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          #34
          Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
          wasnt that at 140??
          it was at WW

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            #35
            Originally posted by DLT
            baracuda, if you dont like Floyd or what he stands for then fine. Thats your opinion but you cant just say crazy things just to say them. You act like because Floyd was gone for 19 months that means he has to start from the bottom like he's some average guy or a bum who has never accomplished anything. Come on now. Clottey was never even conisered to be P4P, let alone P4P like Floyd was for a number of years. Pac is saying right now that he may retire. If he does and then comes back 2 years later to fight a smaller guy who is rated #2 P4P and looks great while doing it, are you saying that he also shouldnt be ranked near the top? These guys are the elite and there is no way you think other guys should really be ranked over Floyd. I mean seriously, who? Half the guys at the top have lost since Floyd retired so its not like they are on these 12 fight hot streaks
            fyi the vote is 100 % and is what i stand for......a ww beating a lw then gets rated as # 2 p4p is not fair to me like the vote says......why did'nt you vote?......lol.....both clottey and floyd werent rated top 10 p4p on sep 19 , yet when if both would beat jmm,one would'nt belong in the top 10 p4p...see my point?

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              #36
              Originally posted by baracuda
              so?....did'nt floyd fight him too and he is a ww now just like clottey?...lol
              Do you really need me to explain the differences between those 2 fights to you?

              Floyd fought him when they were both at 130, and Chico was a P4P guy. He was knocking out guys left and right, was the favorite to beat Floyd, and was a HUGE SFW. He had never been knocked down before, yet Floyd put him on his ass 5 times.

              Clottey fought him after he couldn't make weight for the Casamayor grudge match, so he HAD to go up to 147. Even that version of Chico gave Clottey a better fight than he gave Floyd.

              I also remember how after that fight everyone here was on Clottey's nuts. Topics were constantly made about hypothetical matchups featuring Clottey, and everyone seemed to look at him as this unbeatable dude at WW. Many people even said he'd destroy Floyd.

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                #37
                Originally posted by tito yuca
                Do you really need me to explain the differences between those 2 fights to you?

                Floyd fought him when they were both at 130, and Chico was a P4P guy. He was knocking out guys left and right, was the favorite to beat Floyd, and was a HUGE SFW. He had never been knocked down before, yet Floyd put him on his ass 5 times.

                Clottey fought him after he couldn't make weight for the Casamayor grudge match, so he HAD to go up to 147. Even that version of Chico gave Clottey a better fight than he gave Floyd.

                I also remember how after that fight everyone here was on Clottey's nuts. Topics were constantly made about hypothetical matchups featuring Clottey, and everyone seemed to look at him as this unbeatable dude at WW. Many people even said he'd destroy Floyd.
                no for the first question.....but likewise, floyd is now a ww as CLOTTEY when he beat jmm.....what now?...

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by PAC-BOY
                  Hell no. Only Oscars Ring Magazine would do something that ****in discrediting
                  that's the thing,floyd fans claim he does'nt get the rspect that he deserves yet he gets rated # 2 p4p after beating a lw at ww......wtf?....

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by baracuda
                    fyi the vote is 100 % and is what i stand for......a ww beating a lw then gets rated as # 2 p4p is not fair to me like the vote says......why did'nt you vote?......lol.....both clottey and floyd werent rated top 10 p4p on sep 19 , yet when if both would beat jmm,one would'nt belong in the top 10 p4p...see my point?
                    I didnt vote because I never vote but if I did vote, I would be on the 100% side. I dont know how you think 100% proves your point. You asked about Clottey and the truth is if Clottey beat Pac or Floyd, he still wouldnt be ranked #2 P4P. Thats why its a dumb comparison. You say that neither Floyd or Clottey were ranked at the time. As a Floyd fan even I said that he doesnt deserved to be ranked until he fights someone but if he looks like the same ole Floyd then he should be ranked #2. I gave Pac that respect but no one else has stepped up that much in Floyd's absence except JMM and Floyd just killed him. Are you seriously going to tell me that Cotto or Mosley or someone else should be ranked above Floyd? Just tell me who

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by DLT
                      I didnt vote because I never vote but if I did vote, I would be on the 100% side. I dont know how you think 100% proves your point. You asked about Clottey and the truth is if Clottey beat Pac or Floyd, he still wouldnt be ranked #2 P4P. Thats why its a dumb comparison. You say that neither Floyd or Clottey were ranked at the time. As a Floyd fan even I said that he doesnt deserved to be ranked until he fights someone but if he looks like the same ole Floyd then he should be ranked #2. I gave Pac that respect but no one else has stepped up that much in Floyd's absence except JMM and Floyd just killed him. Are you seriously going to tell me that Cotto or Mosley or someone else should be ranked above Floyd? Just tell me who
                      your vote is just a couple of clicks homeboy but i understand why you would'nt.....not even deniyin where its headed to ..lol..im not comparing anything at all, but just wondering why one ww would be ranked #2 by beating a lw and not the other when both werent rated at all in p4p......at your last question,ssm or bhop,or even caballero deserves more than floyd...lol...

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