James Toney..in a class of his own

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  • PBDS
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    #31
    Originally posted by cmason
    you think jirov was in the fight till the last round? i must be watching a different fight. toney schooled his ass for the entire fight, alot of jirov's punches were blocked or missed. i'm a toney fan but i'm no schoolboy nuthugger and i knew as soon as the fight was signed jirov was beaten.

    ...yeah, start a poll and ask if people thought the fight between he and Jirov was closer than the scores and if it could have gone either way up until that last round

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    • justin04
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      #32
      toney is a great boxer, but unfortunately i think that at 36 he's past his prime, especially if he stays in the heavyweight division. since he's a little guy he needs speed to get inside the bigger guys' reach and do some damage, and speed is one of the first things that boxers seem to loose as they get older. if toney was 29 right now i'd say that he definitely had a shot at being heavyweight champ, but as it is i think that he should drop back down to light heavyweight and try to cap off his impressive carrear by winning the title there and then retiring.

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      • LittleBigMan
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        #33
        Toney is the man

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        • cmason
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          #34
          mcline talks better than he fights. when he gets in the ring he has sparring partner mentality. he fights like he's been paid to give the other guy a workout.

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          • LittleBigMan
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            #35
            I believe had Toney been in there with McCline November 13, Toney would have stopped him.

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            • Toller
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              #36
              Originally posted by pbds
              ...yeah, start a poll and ask if people thought the fight between he and Jirov was closer than the scores and if it could have gone either way up until that last round
              From what I can remember, I thought it was very close going into the last round - Jirov certainly had a shot at winning it.

              Lederman had the fight scored as a draw if I remember correctly.

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              • Toller
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                #37
                (though my memory is a little hazy)

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                • Mike Tyson Jr.
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                  #38
                  james toney is too fat
                  to win the title. he aint
                  even in good shape. the
                  champion should be lean
                  and mean not have *****
                  **** like toney. he is
                  just too fat. no way
                  can he ever be heavyweight champion.

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                  • LittleBigMan
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                    #39
                    well, he'll be as much of a champion as Byrd or Vitali is should he defeat Ruiz

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                    • hollister
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                      #40
                      I personally think Toney is too heavy for his frame, and his joints, and I think we will see more Toney injuries in the future. IMO, with regard to technical skill, he is at least second best in the heavyweight division, possibly behind Byrd, but against VK, he isn't strong enough to work inside, or to keep VK off him to win the decision, as we all know VK won't even be wobbled against Toney, and not tall or quick enough to get inside from long range, even if he could fight VK inside. He's a great fighter, no doubt, but a KO win over VK is reaching, and I think Byrd would take a decision over him, if Byrd moves like he used to.

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