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  • SweetPbfAli
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    #41
    Originally posted by Roadblock

    He beat TC in the amateurs so he cant be too bad.
    ​​​​​​This isn't the amateurs.

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    • Roadblock
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      #42
      Originally posted by SweetPbfAli
      Ugas seems kind of dense. He had a great game plan versus Errol and he abandoned it after 1-2 rounds to stand in front of Errol and get his eye socket punched in.

      Also you're not Bud, that's the difference.
      I thought that's how Ugas always fights plodding forward, I think youre half right Bud was a lot better and Errol wasn't the same, there is so much circumstantial evidence that things weren't right and so many top fighters and trainers etc say it, its weird how fans flat reject the notion Errol could have had problems going into the fight, its not impossible and has happened in boxing many times before, Im sure over their next few fights it will all come out.

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        #43
        Originally posted by 4truth

        Laurence Cole is an incompetent. If you were going to fix a fight he's the last guy you would want in there.
        Ugas was just following the referee's instructions, which by rule, he must do no matter.

        Take his performance in the Loma /Salido fight. No way it was fixed, it was just an incompetent referee being himself.
        Nobody at this level is incompetent. The brass like to throw that word around to save their arses. Cole is a top tier ref, he's just dirty. I don't care how bad you are, when you got ~500 fights at the top tier (I just looked at his boxrec so that's a real number) under your belt, you get good eventually. Christ, he was reffing Tommy Hearns in his early days.

        Cole said stop when the punch was in flight, then he backed off and was well within view. You stop when a ref lays hands on you at that point. Protect yourself at all times and Ugas should have went after him. Trainers call what Ugas did as "taking a picture" =---> it's an amateur thing to do.

        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

        Spence didn’t look his best that night. Crawford had a lot to do with it no doubt, but there was something more to it than that.

        I refuse to believe that Mean Machine could give Crawford more trouble than a 100% Errol could.
        I used to be a huge Spence fan when nobody knew who he was. I was big watching amateur fighters back in the day so it's not like I'm sloshed on haterade. But this is 100% Spence.

        He hasn't changed one bit since the amateurs, Bomac said it too and he's right. He dropped down a class in the pro's and beat up goldfish his entire career. One of the judges had Porter winning.

        Crawford is an A+ level fighter and this is what happens with a B+ jmw fights an A+ level fighter at ww.

        Ejbdljbpaisdf Aozdffadpojfnj was down 3x and stopped in the same round as Spence. I didn't see the fight, but 1 judge had it a 1 round fight against Vergil Ortiz before he got stopped. Some guys are just awkward. I dunno if you remember Thomas Damgaard, but that guy just made people look bad. Plenty of guys out there like that.

        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey

        Imagine if Ugas had Crawford’s power? Knockout.
        100% agree. You see how Errols neck snaps? When you hit a guy on the right side of his jaw, at that angle, with a 1-2 right hand, it's like double damage. He was already rocked with the right uppercut too. Real power, Spence would be taking the Nestea Plunge =---> spark out.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Roadblock

          I thought that's how Ugas always fights plodding forward, I think youre half right Bud was a lot better and Errol wasn't the same, there is so much circumstantial evidence that things weren't right and so many top fighters and trainers etc say it, its weird how fans flat reject the notion Errol could have had problems going into the fight, its not impossible and has happened in boxing many times before, Im sure over their next few fights it will all come out.
          I'm of the mind that multiple things can be true, that's how life works. However, Errol's physical condition aside, there was a CLEAR gap in skill between the 2. All Errol would have done was do what he always does, but harder lol.

          Also, many of Errol's issues are self inflicted which is a measure of skill, intangibles to be exact. His lifestyle caught up with him against a higher skilled fighter with a polar opposite lifestyle. Those are things I considered before the fight and it played out in real time. You can't continuously cheat the process and get away with it. I say this as a fan of both guys.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Roadblock

            I thought that's how Ugas always fights plodding forward, I think youre half right Bud was a lot better and Errol wasn't the same, there is so much circumstantial evidence that things weren't right and so many top fighters and trainers etc say it, its weird how fans flat reject the notion Errol could have had problems going into the fight, its not impossible and has happened in boxing many times before, Im sure over their next few fights it will all come out.
            Also, your Ugas point is why I said he seems dense lol. There was a clear pathway to victory in the first 2 rounds of his fight with Errol, go watch it again and then he goes back to "how he fights" when that's not the fight for that fight. Lol

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              #46
              I think if there is not all belts to gain at the higher weight for Bud then he shouldn’t vacate what he jst worked so hard to capture. Not only the 4 belts but history in being the first to ever do so in that class. That’s a huge accomplishment . He would also be “Boots” Enis, simply due to the fact that boots would choke based on the huge stage that he’s never performed on

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