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  • Originally posted by satiev1 View Post

    Watch spence's pre fight leading up to the fight. He said this was his best weight cut to date.
    True the rest looks like he was wrong, the thing with weight is they dont know for sure until the bell sounds because thats when the system is under pressure, Errol has been borderline with weight for years now maybe this was one to many times, it was interesting how he said he normally feels flat at the start then he picks up this time he said that kick never came.

    As Ive said all along I dont think anything would have made a difference and Errol still loses, I just feel he would be stronger and more durable at a higher weight, instead of receiving an 8 level beat down its 3 level beatdown, the skill handicap is too much and Errols only asset is physical strength and it wasnt there.

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    • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

      True the rest looks like he was wrong, the thing with weight is they dont know for sure until the bell sounds because thats when the system is under pressure, Errol has been borderline with weight for years now maybe this was one to many times, it was interesting how he said he normally feels flat at the start then he picks up this time he said that kick never came.

      As Ive said all along I dont think anything would have made a difference and Errol still loses, I just feel he would be stronger and more durable at a higher weight, instead of receiving an 8 level beat down its 3 level beatdown, the skill handicap is too much and Errols only asset is physical strength and it wasnt there.
      To me bud looked way more drained. He had black eyes, sunken cheekbones, was wearing a hoodie and plastics the whole week before the fight. Spence was walking around in t-shirts.

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      • Originally posted by satiev1 View Post

        To me bud looked way more drained. He had black eyes, sunken cheekbones, was wearing a hoodie and plastics the whole week before the fight. Spence was walking around in t-shirts.
        I thought Bud looked stronger and more muscled up than Id ever seen him before.

        18043982_web1_SpenceCrawfordWEBCROP.jpg?crop=1.jpg
        Last edited by Roadblock; 08-23-2023, 08:57 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

          He looked dry, bug-eyed, his legs looked weak and unsteady his punchers were slow and pushed no snap at all and he didn't recover from what appeared to be not real hard shots, if you look at drained fighters LaLonde Dawson Oscar etc they all had that same kinda look especially in their resistence, not that Errol can ever beat TC but I do think he can be stronger and more durable at a higher weight.

          And youre not going to see how drained a fighter is until he has to compete unless he passed out at the weighing or gained only 2lbs like Oscar did, so I don't get your before comment
          You saw all of this BEFORE the fight!!!?? Spence wasn’t drained. Drained fighters don’t just keep on punching. Spence just got beat by a guy who was is a great counter puncher who could also punch. Bud fought smart. Spence doesn’t have this big arsenal of punches. He was solved easy by Bud. And Bud can punch bro. All Bud had to do was control Spences jab and he has nothing else. You have never seen Spence hit clean as many times as he was by Bud. And still…Spence was protesting the stoppage at the end.

          They guys you named that were drained had to come DOWN in weight from a higher division. Spence was just coming down in weight. He might’ve fought drained to you but not to me, and he might’ve looked drained to you, but not me. Could something have been wrong? He didn’t tell us. All fighters have something going on before fights major or minor. But you have to honor the contract.
          Last edited by Raggamuffin; 08-23-2023, 10:19 PM.
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          • Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
            You saw all of this BEFORE the fight!!!?? Spence wasn’t drained. Drained fighters don’t just keep on punching. Spence just got beat by a guy who was is a great counter puncher who could also punch. Bud fought smart. Spence doesn’t have this big arsenal of punches. He was solved easy by Bud. And Bud can punch bro. All Bud had to do was control Spences jab and he has nothing else. You have never seen Spence hit clean as many times as he was by Bud. And still…Spence was protesting the stoppage at the end.

            They guys you named that were drained had to come DOWN in weight from a higher division. Spence was just coming down in weight. He might’ve fought drained to you but not to me, and he might’ve looked drained to you, but not me. Could something have been wrong? He didn’t tell us. All fighters have something going on before fights major or minor. But you have to honor the contract.
            Who said before the fight, I was asked what I saw, It doesn't matter if you are coming down or out grown your division drained is drained, I find it amazing how insecure guys are that Spence may have been drained, nobody is saying he would have won the fight but pretty much everybody is saying Errol looked drained, hindsight is 20/20 vision if you care to look.
            Last edited by Roadblock; 08-23-2023, 11:15 PM.

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            • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

              I thought Bud looked stronger and more muscled up than Id ever seen him before.

              18043982_web1_SpenceCrawfordWEBCROP.jpg?crop=1.jpg
              That's not looking drained at all. You can see the fullness in the muscles. Seems like you're the one with the agenda to prove to the world that spence was drained when that's not the case. Spence himself said he wasn't drained right before the fight but I guess you're gonna live a lie to make you sleep better at night.
              Last edited by satiev1; 08-24-2023, 02:14 AM.

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              • Originally posted by satiev1 View Post

                That's not looking drained at all. You can see the fullness in the muscles. Seems like you're the one with the agenda to prove to the world that spence was drained when that's not the case. Spence himself said he wasn't drained right before the fight but I guess you're gonna live a lie to make you sleep better at night.
                I agree I didnt think he looked drained at the weighin, looked a real fine cut but looked ok to me, but thats not the fight the weighin is only part of it, I know they can fall in a big hole after the weighin such as Oscar gaining 2lbs and outweighed by Manny in the fight, thats why I like to see fight night weights, its all the difference in the world as to how the body rehydrates, if youre too dry the body doesnt take on water as it should, if it takes on too much water you can be very puffy looking, its not as simple as guys in here think.

                How do you figure Im living a lie, do you even know whats actually being said, I have nowhere said he WAS drained, what Im saying he looked weak and its very possible he was drained and there is a very large amount of knowledgeable boxing people saying Spence looked weak, Im sure it will be revealed one way or the other, the comical part to me is how matter of fact you are that Spence was perfect, I understand why, its because you want to elevate your current fav guy and in your mind the thought of Errol was not right diminishes your guy, which is pure fan bravado, I was a fan of both guys and on the fence for most of the lead up and over the last week I chose TC to win and be stronger, so I dont have a favorite guy, Im just looking at the fight and reverse engineering what I seen across it all, as I said hindsight is 20/20 vision, bias is anything but, more like 18/2.

                By the way I posted that pic to show how strong TC was, after you said he looked drained, you never said a word about TC which was the point of the pic, and you straight up go on about Errol doesn't look drained, where you said TC was , its quite funny how you guys cant be direct question and answer, it always goes of in another direction lol.
                Last edited by Roadblock; 08-24-2023, 03:06 AM.

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                • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                  Who said before the fight, I was asked what I saw, It doesn't matter if you are coming down or out grown your division drained is drained, I find it amazing how insecure guys are that Spence may have been drained, nobody is saying he would have won the fight but pretty much everybody is saying Errol looked drained, hindsight is 20/20 vision if you care to look.
                  So you’re answering another question in my post or are you answering my question, lmao…!!!??? You were asked!!!??? Why would people be insecure about Spence being drained? Because they aren’t letting guys like you use that as an excuse. The “ it wouldn’t have mattered soliloquies” that Buds fans have been hearing satisfies Spence’s fans that something was wrong while taking away—-and giving Bud his respect. Had Bud lost, he would been taken to the woodshed, then out back and shot. His resume would’ve been picked apart… and he would’ve been treated as a “never was”. Sorry, but I’m buying anyone’s eye test. I always like to hear it from the fighter.

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