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  • garfios
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    #101
    Originally posted by TheWinners

    Also even the man himself comes out and says " Charlo is bigger " and " I'm always the smaller fighter " However I'll leave it to you that Canelo is some natural 168 lb fighter. So apparently the guy that has fought from 140-175 doesn't understand how size works.
    Then why when he was fighting at 155 he would step in the ring at 171-177 pounds? And he was 21-23 yo. He started at 140 when he was a teenager, so he probably walked around at 155-160. He's a heavy guy, just like Qawi and Tyson.

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      #102
      Originally posted by TheWinners

      Hey it could be a disadvantage or an advantage. We will have to see come fight night. I was being sarcastic. You're saying Canelo is physically smaller however everyone else is claiming he's not.

      So I was sarcastically asking how a 5'8 supermiddleweight could be physically smaller. Obviously it's common sense for anyone who understands average heights for weight classes. And 5'8 is a very small 168 lb fighter.
      It is. This fight is intriguing for me. I don't view it as a cherry pick by Canelo. I think he's THE guy at 168 and Charlo is trying to be great. It's no different to Marvelous Marvin Hagler defending his middleweight crown against the great welterweights that moved up to challenge him.

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      • TheWinners
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        #103
        Originally posted by garfios

        Then why when he was fighting at 155 he would step in the ring at 171-177 pounds? And he was 21-23 yo. He started at 140 when he was a teenager, so he probably walked around at 155-160. He's a heavy guy, just like Qawi and Tyson.
        All the why's in the world really don't matter. This comes down to common sense. 5'8 is a very small super middleweight. There's no way around it. So there's no size advantage for Canelo even after fighting a 5'11 fighter who shrinks down to 154.

        Everyone who is tapped in says Charlo is looking massive, resembling a light heavyweight. Him being able to bulk up may be a disadvantage or an advantage. He's more athletic than Canelo but adding the extra size may take those advantages away. He will still have a significant size and reach advantage. He's bigger and he can add bulk to his 5'11 frame that could already be at 160 or 168 with no problems.

        Nothing any bias figure on here post will change the facts. Everyone who is tapped in knows Charlo is bigger. Trout has came out and said his brother Jermall was bigger and hit harder than Canelo. Although he didn't face Canelo at 168. He's still confirmed Jermall who is only an inch taller than his brother and 1 weight class up is much bigger and physically stronger when Canelo. Charlo and his brother are the same f******* size.

        Seeing that Jermell cleaned out 154, we knew he would move up sooner than later. I'm sure he didn't want to be in the same division as his brother. Which may factor in why he kept shrinking down to 154. Either way him and his brother are the same size! And recent pics Jermell looks bigger than his brother ever was in training camp.

        This just a case of a bunch of bias jagoffs trying to hide their bias and sound smart but are pretty dumb and ignorant to how this works. Canelo is the smaller man. He would also know since he's right in front of the fighter. He hasn't had size advantage over majority of his opponents from 160-175. This because he's giving up 2-4 inches of height to some fighters who have already been at the weight. Guys moving up to the weight but 3 inches taller will still have the size advantage. They just don't have to cut the weight now.

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          #104
          More fuel to the fire because f*** it its hilarious to me. Holy ****. Another idiot from bleacher report called Canelo the smaller stronger fighter. Not bigger stronger but smaller stronger. How in the hell is he smaller? Hmmmm.......
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            #105
            Shut up already.

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              #106
              What truly matters in combat sports is the weight but height n reach isn't less important especially for fighters that actually know how to use it as an advantage. Bottom line Canelo is small size SMW compared to the division average height/reach but the mofo is build up like a tank. So that sort of balance things up.

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              • garfios
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                #107
                Originally posted by TheWinners

                All the why's in the world really don't matter. This comes down to common sense. 5'8 is a very small super middleweight. There's no way around it. So there's no size advantage for Canelo even after fighting a 5'11 fighter who shrinks down to 154.

                Everyone who is tapped in says Charlo is looking massive, resembling a light heavyweight. Him being able to bulk up may be a disadvantage or an advantage. He's more athletic than Canelo but adding the extra size may take those advantages away. He will still have a significant size and reach advantage. He's bigger and he can add bulk to his 5'11 frame that could already be at 160 or 168 with no problems.

                Nothing any bias figure on here post will change the facts. Everyone who is tapped in knows Charlo is bigger. Trout has came out and said his brother Jermall was bigger and hit harder than Canelo. Although he didn't face Canelo at 168. He's still confirmed Jermall who is only an inch taller than his brother and 1 weight class up is much bigger and physically stronger when Canelo. Charlo and his brother are the same f******* size.

                Seeing that Jermell cleaned out 154, we knew he would move up sooner than later. I'm sure he didn't want to be in the same division as his brother. Which may factor in why he kept shrinking down to 154. Either way him and his brother are the same size! And recent pics Jermell looks bigger than his brother ever was in training camp.

                This just a case of a bunch of bias jagoffs trying to hide their bias and sound smart but are pretty dumb and ignorant to how this works. Canelo is the smaller man. He would also know since he's right in front of the fighter. He hasn't had size advantage over majority of his opponents from 160-175. This because he's giving up 2-4 inches of height to some fighters who have already been at the weight. Guys moving up to the weight but 3 inches taller will still have the size advantage. They just don't have to cut the weight now.
                Talking about common sense, charlo has never fought at 168, he might be used to carrying the weight under normal activities, never in a fight, definitely not in his bigger event. The ginger has been a weight bully and all the advantages in every fight with the fraud fight been the exception. I told a few people that letting Crawford get used to weight was a mistake, if they fought a few years back I'm pretty sure the contest could have look different, regardless of the winner, like I said, ginger is the one accustomed to the division, he's thick and powerful and the high has nothing to do with any division, I remember Bob Foster, a tall lanky LHW was knocking everybody in his division, then he fought a short hw and that was all she wrote. By the way, he ain't giving $h1t to anyone, he's getting all the advantages, and again, height has nothing to do with any division. Montell Griffith was 5'7", Qawi was 5'5", **** Tiger was 5'8, Gene Fullmer 5'8", Lamotta 5'8", Tony Zale 5'7, And you the one mentioning common sense.
                Last edited by garfios; 08-21-2023, 03:07 PM.

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                • TheWinners
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by garfios
                  Talking about common sense, charlo has never fought at 168, he might be used to carrying the weight under normal activities, never in a fight, definitely not in his bigger event. The ginger has been a weight bully and all the advantages in every fight with the fraud fight been the exception. I told a few people that letting Crawford get used to weight was a mistake, if they fought a few years back I'm pretty sure the contest could have look different, regardless of the winner, like I said, ginger is the one accustomed to the division, he's thick and powerful and the high has nothing to do with any division, I remember Bob Foster, a tall lanky LHW was knocking everybody in his division, then he fought a short hw and that was all she wrote. By the way, he ain't giving $h1t to anyone, he's getting all the advantages, and again, height has nothing to do with any division. Montell Griffith was 5'7", Qawi was 5'5", **** Tiger was 5'8, Gene Fullmer 5'8", Lamotta 5'8". And you the one mentioning common sense.
                  You tried so hard to prove a point lol.

                  Every weight class has an average height. The higher weight classes have taller fighters. It is common sense. It's not impossible for a smaller fighter to win in a bigger division. This is exactly what Canelo is doing.

                  The average 168 lb fighter is 6 ft tall. That means Canelo will most likely give up 4 inches of height every fight making him the smaller fighter. Even the average 154 lb fighter is 5'10 1/2. So he gives up size vs the average 154 lb fighter. Charlo has the height of a middleweight and Canelo has the height of a welterweight. These are averages.

                  Jermell was not going to continue shrinking down to 154. It's understood that Canelo has a large frame and power to make up for his lack of height. It still does not negate he is smaller than the average fighter from 154-175.

                  What point are you proving? So a tall lanky fighter lost to a shorter one. Oooooo s***! Damn. Great point! That definitely debunks the statement that your height usually determines your weight class. Good job

                  You're just bias. 20 people saying the same ****** thing doesn't make it accurate. Look at the articles from respected news sources. Some have writers with differences in opinions, but majority understand Canelo no matter how thick he is is a small 168 lb fighter. It's because he's 5'8. Height plays a role in what division you fight in. Because height can affect how much you weigh. It's physics.

                  He's a short 168 lb fighter. So he gives up size in every fight. And now he's fighting a fighter 3 inches taller. Canelo is the smaller man. You could say he's stronger, that doesn't mean he's bigger. Anthony Joshua is most likely stronger than Fury. But Fury is bigger. Get it? Of course not.

                  If height has nothing to do with any division, when will midgets get in the ring and fight welterweights? I'd love to see it. 4'10 midget who lifts 250 lbs vs tall lanky 5'8 welterweight. Height plays no role!

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by TheWinners

                    You tried so hard to prove a point lol.

                    Every weight class has an average height. The higher weight classes have taller fighters. It is common sense. It's not impossible for a smaller fighter to win in a bigger division. This is exactly what Canelo is doing.

                    The average 168 lb fighter is 6 ft tall. That means Canelo will most likely give up 4 inches of height every fight making him the smaller fighter. Even the average 154 lb fighter is 5'10 1/2. So he gives up size vs the average 154 lb fighter. Charlo has the height of a middleweight and Canelo has the height of a welterweight. These are averages.

                    Jermell was not going to continue shrinking down to 154. It's understood that Canelo has a large frame and power to make up for his lack of height. It still does not negate he is smaller than the average fighter from 154-175.

                    What point are you proving? So a tall lanky fighter lost to a shorter one. Oooooo s***! Damn. Great point! That definitely debunks the statement that your height usually determines your weight class. Good job

                    You're just bias. 20 people saying the same ****** thing doesn't make it accurate. Look at the articles from respected news sources. Some have writers with differences in opinions, but majority understand Canelo no matter how thick he is is a small 168 lb fighter. It's because he's 5'8. Height plays a role in what division you fight in. Because height can affect how much you weigh. It's physics.

                    He's a short 168 lb fighter. So he gives up size in every fight. And now he's fighting a fighter 3 inches taller. Canelo is the smaller man. You could say he's stronger, that doesn't mean he's bigger. Anthony Joshua is most likely stronger than Fury. But Fury is bigger. Get it? Of course not.

                    If height has nothing to do with any division, when will midgets get in the ring and fight welterweights? I'd love to see it. 4'10 midget who lifts 250 lbs vs tall lanky 5'8 welterweight. Height plays no role!
                    Seriously, shut up already.

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                    • JakeTheBoxer
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                      #110
                      So Tommy Hearns was ( is ) bigger than Mike Tyson.

                      No, he is not bigger, just taller.

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