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  • #11
    Originally posted by JOITATS View Post

    Some ppl say 36 yr old donaire gave inoue hell. which he did.
    but dont u think it has 99% to do with the fact that he got caught with a good punch in round 2 that left him seeing double vision for 10 rounds?
    I find it even more impressive that Inoue won despite not having a feel for the distance.
    That is prob the only time in his career that he’s been hit that clean. It hasn’t happened since.

    Fulton is his best opponent. No one did what he did to Fulton, Rodriguez, Narvaez. Taguchi was also the golden boy at that that wgt. All destroyed high level champs. Inoue has exceeded all expectations so far.
    Inoue hits harder than a normal small guy. That is why he looks so incredible, and rightly so. Either via gym work, or via genetics, or likely both, he hits extremely hard for the weight classes he is fighting in. Guys feel his power and it changes them, much like Bud.

    Pac is a good example of a guy that always hit really hard at the low weights. His power carried somewhat, but what gave him the ability to keep moving up was his freakish speed, along with his unorthodox style and ability to do things other fighters cannot do. He is lateral movement, punching while jumping in and out, his ability to hit a guy from angles he was unprepared for, combined with his power and his punch placement, was utterly incredible. And to use the Marquez KO as an example, almost no one could deal with Pac's abilities....JMM was a legendary counterpuncher, and he was getting beat up....he landed the hail Mary when Pac got careless. The best of that era beat Pac a few times, but he was a phenom. At welter, guys started fighting just to survive from being knocked out, he was that good.

    Inoue is a fundamentally great fighter, very strong for 122 and below. The issue he will face is, fundamentals are great, but when he faces a guy with more power, and a special skillset, his fundamentals will keep him in the fight. But if Pac had been a fundamentally sound guy who just came forward and walked everyone down like Inoue does, he never would have made it that high in weight. Inoue is going to get stopped if he keeps moving up. I think Ramirez does it at 126. Robeisy hits from all angles, and throws bombs, and fights with no fear. And he is used to big punchers.

    We will see. Love Inoue, but he isn't going up much past where he is. No shame at all in that, but I'm betting by this time next year, the hype train is derailed.

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    • #12
      Old timer here. Fights like these would have happened on a single Don King PPV in the 90s, and weekly in the 70s.
      Last edited by wrecksracer; 08-15-2023, 11:38 AM.
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      • #13
        Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
        Meet the teen boxing sensation already sparring champs and dubbed ‘next Floyd Mayweather’ by unbeaten legend himself
        Jul 2 2023

        CURMEL Moton is the teenage amateur boxing sensation being dubbed "the next Floyd Mayweather" by the main man himself.

        Still only aged 17, Moton is ranked No1 in Team USA with an astonishing 18 amateur titles to his name.

        The featherweight is making waves on the international scene but also behind-closed-doors back home in Las Vegas.

        At just 16, he sparred world champion and pound-for-pound star Gervonta Davis, with the two already being compared.

        Moton has also received the backing of current champs Errol Spence Jr, Shakur Stevenson and Rolando Romero.

        But perhaps the greatest honour of all, he is being touted as boxing's next big thing by its former pay-per-view king.

        Mayweather, 46, said: "We don't know who's going to be the next Floyd Mayweather.

        "But I truly believe this could be the next Floyd Mayweather."

        Despite the praise coming in thick and fast for Moton, the teen talent remains cool, calm and collected.

        He told FightHype: "I can handle the pressure. I've been putting work in my whole life and I'm used to it.

        "I've been doing this since a little kid so it's nothing new to me."

        Nicknamed “Big Deal" he is currently mentored by Mayweather and will turn professional on his say so after being tipped to go all the way.

        Moton revealed: "(Mayweather) said I'm going to be a future world champion. That's the goal, to be the best in the sport one day.

        "We're going to keep working hard and we're going to get there."

        https://www.the-sun.com/sport/boxing...eather-boxing/

        MAYWEATHER'S NEXT "BIG DEAL" CURMEL MOTON SPARRED GERVONTA DAVIS; 16 Y/O REVEALS WHAT FLOYD TOLD HIM

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QmInxBcQdw

        ​​
        so a fighter that'll fight low competition for years to come.
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        • #14
          Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post
          Old timer here. Fights like these would have happened on a single Don King PPV in the 90s, and weekly in the 70s.
          yeah you are correct thank God for youtube. Lotta great fights happened then.
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          • #15
            Originally posted by Lefty0616 View Post
            I think the title should've been Crawford, Spence, Tank, and Garcia makes boxing greater...

            These were two cases in which these boxers came together to give the fans and the sport of boxing something great, knowing that there would be those that lost.
            tank don't fight anyone. and does catch weights and rehydration clauses like his daddy. Usyk has gone up 30 pounds. Crawford and Inoue exposed the pbc hype train...

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            • #16
              Originally posted by vinnieq View Post
              Why attach Inoue to Crawford's name??
              Crawford is no.1. It took a long time to figure the P4P out conclusively. Two top 5 pound 4 pounders competing and one won emphatically.
              Usyk is the only one close to what Crawford has done. And Usyk is not as skilled or athletic.
              I peeped that too lol. They’re going to try and label him P4P #1 after his next fight against a nobody in Tapales.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by ELPacman View Post
                Honestly, I'm not too excited yet about Inoue. Perhaps he does win too easily or perhaps, Donaire aside, I haven't found his opponents all that worthy against him. He really makes them look easy, but I never thought his opponents were that great yet besides Donaire. Obviously he blasted Donaire in rematch, but the first Donaire fight was a true test and Donaire gave him hell for the entire fight.

                Crawford on the other hand has been a lot of fun watching come up. I remember attending his match against Hank Lundy in MSG Theater back when I had no idea what he would become in the future. Just thought he was an entertaining dude to watch. He's weird because he's good at boxing without making it look like he's boxing at times. He does love to get into a scrap and typically over powers his opponents in those moments.

                I'm glad he's finally arrived at the big stage, but unfortunately, at his age, we won't see too many more great performances. That's the part that sucks when these guys wait forever to face each other. I think of Pac or Trinidad who faced legends at early ages (22 years old, 24years old) and that was when they arrived at the big stage. From there, it was just hot matches after hot matches for the most part and their career seemed to go on forever.
                I think Inoue’s career will probably go in the same trajectory as Chocalitito’s. People are comparing him to Pac already, Jesus.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Lefty0616 View Post
                  I think the title should've been Crawford, Spence, Tank, and Garcia makes boxing greater...

                  These were two cases in which these boxers came together to give the fans and the sport of boxing something great, knowing that there would be those that lost.
                  At first I had a knee jerk reaction at including Tank/Garcia but you’re right. They’re top fighters in the division who fought each other even though a title wasn’t on the line. If we **** on the loser then it makes other boxers avoid taking risks in the future. It was great for boxing.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Poopdick View Post

                    so a fighter that'll fight low competition for years to come.
                    That's how they ALL do it, especially when they aren't even 18 yet!

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                    • #20
                      As good as those guys are they are not big draws. Boxing right now is meh compared to years past. I’m still a fan but last decade was better, the decade before that, the decade before that, etc……

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