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  • #91
    Nah, not true.

    He could’ve fought Chocolatito at 112. Could’ve fought him, Estrada, Rungvisai, and Cuadras at 115. Chocolatito is the only legend there and Estrada is pretty close to being one. Rungvisai and Cuadras would’ve been be awesome wins. Inoue could’ve have stuck around and fight those guys. Navarrete also called him out when he was in the same promotion and 4 lbs north of him. I think he’s a stylistic nightmare for Inoue (he’s big, tough as hell, awkward as hell, and has power) and I think Inoue ignored his call outs for a good reason. So basically he skipped out or didn’t push for available fights against Chocolatito, Estrada, Rungvisai, Cuadras, and Navarrete. So yeah, that is kind of a knock on Inoue. Not to mention, people are calling for a fight against Tank (but he’s not a legend) and Loma (who borderline is). So he should make these fights if he wants to be an ATG. He has lots of catching up to do.

    Originally posted by ELPacman View Post

    Nah man. What Donaire did to Darchinyan (twice), Arce, Montiel (crazy KO) were better than anything Inoue has done yet.

    Like I said, Inoue doesn't have "legends", "knocking on the door to legends" under his belt besides an old Donaire. He's beaten guys that weren't all that impressive in their own careers, but the best thing Inoue could fight. That's not a knock against Inoue either, it could just be current times and him facing what is available/the best available. Unfortunately, the best available, isn't all that great/talented.

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    • #92
      1 Because Arum is capping and lying or promoting his fighter or all of the above. How do I know this? He once said Manny will go down as the greatest boxer to ever live. He once said Loma is the greatest boxer since Ali.

      2 It’s a ****ty and disrespectful take. I think boxing fans would be riled up if we said Junto Nakatani is better than Inoue.

      3 Who cares what Tyson says. Tyson says Ali is the GOAT. Then he’ll say SRR is. Then he’ll say Duran is. And he was saying Inoue is better than a smaller Pacquiao, most likely comparing him to 122 Pac.

      Originally posted by JOITATS View Post
      I don't know why some ppl get all riled up,
      Arum is entitled to think that. Even Tyson said that Inoue maybe better than Pacman.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Eltron View Post
        Nah, not true.

        He could’ve fought Chocolatito at 112. Could’ve fought him, Estrada, Rungvisai, and Cuadras at 115. Chocolatito is the only legend there and Estrada is pretty close to being one. Rungvisai and Cuadras would’ve been be awesome wins. Inoue could’ve have stuck around and fight those guys. Navarrete also called him out when he was in the same promotion and 4 lbs north of him. I think he’s a stylistic nightmare for Inoue (he’s big, tough as hell, awkward as hell, and has power) and I think Inoue ignored his call outs for a good reason. So basically he skipped out or didn’t push for available fights against Chocolatito, Estrada, Rungvisai, Cuadras, and Navarrete. So yeah, that is kind of a knock on Inoue. Not to mention, people are calling for a fight against Tank (but he’s not a legend) and Loma (who borderline is). So he should make these fights if he wants to be an ATG. He has lots of catching up to do.



        You have no clue what your talking about.

        There are too many threads about Chocolatito avoiding Inoue. He flat out turned down Inoue's offer for his biggest payday.
        Gonzales also later said he wasn't interested. You're just speaking out of your ass, not understanding the real story. Go look it up before you speak.

        Inoue has been one of the most avoided boxers. But you wouldn't know.

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        • #94
          Yeah it’s you that’s talking out of his ass lmao. Chocolatito at the time wanted to fight Cuadras because it was more money, so he turned down BOTH Estrada and Inoue for the bigger pay. Here are the quotes from Chocolatito from this article https://www.boxingscene.com/chocolat...uadras--109181

          "I do not care if Estrada asks me a rematch. If he's not going to offer me good money, it won't happen. A rematch with Cuadras would be tremendous, there would be more money. I do not know if people from HBO are interested in a fight with Inoue in the United States. I've been offered a fight with Inoue, but with a low purse, which does not suit me. The problem is the purse. It all depends on the people from HBO."​

          You might say, he ducked both of them! To that I would say, why would he duck someone beat soundly?



          Originally posted by JOITATS View Post


          You have no clue what your talking about.

          There are too many threads about Chocolatito avoiding Inoue. He flat out turned down Inoue's offer for his biggest payday.
          Gonzales also later said he wasn't interested. You're just speaking out of your ass, not understanding the real story. Go look it up before you speak.

          Inoue has been one of the most avoided boxers. But you wouldn't know.
          Last edited by Eltron; 08-17-2023, 01:33 AM.

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          • #95
            Also, Inoue and his team are on record for SWERVING around Chocolatito. Here is the actual article: https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-i-...onzalez--97665

            Here is a quote:

            "I want to fight with Roman, but everyone tells me I'm still very green to face someone like him. If Roman wants to fight me, he should come up to 115 pounds. There are issues because of our gap in experience. In Japan they believe that I should do 4 or 5 fights so I can be ready to face him. I wish I had more experience, so in the upcoming year I will have about three fights to get more experience.​”

            The OG Pac wasn’t complaining when he fought prime Top 3 PFP Barrera at 24 lol. He took that **** and became a legend because of that.

            Originally posted by JOITATS View Post


            You have no clue what your talking about.

            There are too many threads about Chocolatito avoiding Inoue. He flat out turned down Inoue's offer for his biggest payday.
            Gonzales also later said he wasn't interested. You're just speaking out of your ass, not understanding the real story. Go look it up before you speak.

            Inoue has been one of the most avoided boxers. But you wouldn't know.

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            • #96
              Here is another one. Navarrete has been calling him out. https://www.badlefthook.com/2020/4/2...ht-boxing-news

              This is what he said: “There is no interest from their part. He really did what he wanted at 118 and then he sent out a release saying that he was going to move up to 122, my division. When he did it, I saw the possibility of fighting him because he signed with Top Rank, but after that, he said he was going to face John Riel Casimero.”

              Originally posted by JOITATS View Post


              You have no clue what your talking about.

              There are too many threads about Chocolatito avoiding Inoue. He flat out turned down Inoue's offer for his biggest payday.
              Gonzales also later said he wasn't interested. You're just speaking out of your ass, not understanding the real story. Go look it up before you speak.

              Inoue has been one of the most avoided boxers. But you wouldn't know.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Eltron View Post
                Nah, not true.

                He could’ve fought Chocolatito at 112. Could’ve fought him, Estrada, Rungvisai, and Cuadras at 115. Chocolatito is the only legend there and Estrada is pretty close to being one. Rungvisai and Cuadras would’ve been be awesome wins. Inoue could’ve have stuck around and fight those guys. Navarrete also called him out when he was in the same promotion and 4 lbs north of him. I think he’s a stylistic nightmare for Inoue (he’s big, tough as hell, awkward as hell, and has power) and I think Inoue ignored his call outs for a good reason. So basically he skipped out or didn’t push for available fights against Chocolatito, Estrada, Rungvisai, Cuadras, and Navarrete. So yeah, that is kind of a knock on Inoue. Not to mention, people are calling for a fight against Tank (but he’s not a legend) and Loma (who borderline is). So he should make these fights if he wants to be an ATG. He has lots of catching up to do.



                Well I can agree with all that if he truly did avoid some of those names. They would definitely have helped lift his status up with those types of names on his resume. I just think at 30yrs old, he still has quite a bit of work to do to even be close to mentioned with Pacquiao. Though overall, this is just old man talk from a promoter doing his job. At the end of the day, it would never be up to Arum to determine who was the better fighter, but boxing historians. They'd put Inoue where he belongs and rightfully so.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Eltron View Post
                  Also, Inoue and his team are on record for SWERVING around Chocolatito. Here is the actual article: https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-i-...onzalez--97665

                  Here is a quote:

                  "I want to fight with Roman, but everyone tells me I'm still very green to face someone like him. If Roman wants to fight me, he should come up to 115 pounds. There are issues because of our gap in experience. In Japan they believe that I should do 4 or 5 fights so I can be ready to face him. I wish I had more experience, so in the upcoming year I will have about three fights to get more experience.​”

                  The OG Pac wasn’t complaining when he fought prime Top 3 PFP Barrera at 24 lol. He took that **** and became a legend because of that.


                  NO wrong

                  Inoue said he wanted to fight Gonzales after a couple fights.
                  Exactly 1 yr later, Gonzales was offered by Inoue, but he turned it down. Payperview with Cuadras LOL (is that ppv joke?) over a nationally televised bout with the biggest Japanese star. It was Choco’s best payday of his career to fight Inoue. Duck. He was offered again after that, and Choco said he wasn’t interested 2x. Navarette?! at 130 wtf?

                  You’re nothing but a waste of time troll.

                  Boxing fans from around the world are enjoying all these top guys challenging the best guys. It rarely happens… It’s too bad some losers gotta hate.

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                  • #99
                    https://www.boxingscene.com/amp/choc...ed-with-offer-

                    Not pleased with the offer. thats a joke.
                    Choco also avoided Inoue after beating Cuadras for the second time, and opted to fight a no name in Rungvisai. It backfired for him. If you think Choco only chooses big money fights, your blind.

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                    • he's a promoter, has to promote his current product, not much else to say

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