Floyd talks about Inoue...

[Hustle]

Donaire was the champ. What was Inoue supposed to do, not fight him because he's old? MF's acting like it was some soft touch voluntary defense


First fight was a unification. Inoue was IBF champ, Donaire was WBA Super Champ
Second fight was a unification. Inoue was IBF/WBA Champ. Donaire was WBC Champ

Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post
floyd dissing inoue for fighting an old donaire but floyd also fought a fading pacquiao... why floyd aint fight pac sooner then. floyd talking about fulton aint a heavy puncher but floyd aint a heavy puncher either.

This is what I'm responding too. He literally compared Donaire vs inoue to pac vs Floyd when Floyd is older than pac.


context matters

[Combat Talk Radio]

Yet Floyd had a chance to fight Mosley at 135 and ducked. He also insists that "Loma will be 40 someday" when asked if Tank will fight him. So it's okay for his fighter to cherry pick older opponents? Besides, it's not as though Inoue had a lot of other options for a lucrative fight, there aren't a lot of big names in those lower classes.

Mosley refused to fight Floyd at the lower weight classes. This is on record. Same as Cotto.

Mosley left lightweight in 1999 and took two soft touches to get adjusted to welterweight; Floyd moved up to lightweight in 2002 to fight Castillo. So the only opportunity to have that fight would have been for Mosley to stay at lightweight, which he wasn't going to do as he was struggling to make weight. Floyd had called him and a bunch of other guys out after dismantling El Matador, but nobody took the bait, which is why he was lightweight champion for so long after beating Castillo.

2000, Mosley eeks out a win against Oscar and becomes unified welterweight champion. Goes on to beat two decent opponents, then runs smack into another champion, Vernon Forest, and loses his belts, then loses the rematch.

2003, he moves up to jr. middleweight. Meanwhile, Floyd is still at lightweight. So there was no chance for that fight at this point. But Floyd called him out again after dispatching Gatti - him, Cotto, Spinks, Judah and Tszyu. Spinks had beaten Judah and was The Man, unified at welterweight. Floyd dispatched Judah, then started negotiating for a Spinks fight. Mainstream media turned on Floyd, saying he was ducking Baldomir (yes, that happened), who was the current 'Eye Test' after stopping both Gatti and Judah.

In 2003, Mosley rematches Oscar, gets his hand raised. Afterwards he admitted that he took PEDs.

In 2004, Mosley was offered a third fight against Oscar for $12 million dollars. He refused. He was offered $10 million to fight Tito Trinidad. He refused. He only wanted to fight Winky Wright, because he wanted Wright's title. That was a huge mistake, because Winky dealt with him with ease and took his belts.

Mosley goes back down to welterweight so he can weight bully a bit, decimates Fernando Vargas twice, then takes a mandatory away from Luis Collazo only have a rising Miguel Cotto, WBA champion, deal with him with ease. He goes back up to 154 just to fight Mayorga, then back down to fight Margacheato for the belt that he won by making Cotto take a knee.

Then, Mosley was scheduled to fight Berto (!) for the WBC title at 147, but Berto pulled out because of the Haiti disaster, so Floyd finally got the shot. Floyd declined to fight for Mosley's title. He just wanted to punish Mosley for ducking him for years.

Berto would come back and get decimated by Victor Ortiz, who Floyd fought next to take the WBC title.


Summary:

If anyone was avoiding, it was Mosley. For YEARS. He was the only one with multiple opportunities to fight Floyd, but Mosley was chasing belts. Just like Canelo.

[Bravado]

Mosley did call him out at 135. How was Floyd low reward, he just came off a win versus a weight drained Corrales? The tooth issue was a lose tooth from a fight, it was going to require dental work and time for recovery. Two months wasn't much to ask. It was a convenient out for Floyd.

Floyd never called out an elite at their best. He talked a big game but made impossible demands and priced himself out. Anyone can do that, lol.

Getting back to Inoue, Floyd has a clear agenda. He can't allow anyone else to bask in the spotlight. He's constantly shyting on the success of other fighters.

Called our Floyd? Weight drained Diego?


Lying on the internet >>>>

[GhostofDempsey]

Called our Floyd? Weight drained Diego?


Lying on the internet >>>>

Corrales was weight drained at 130. If you weren’t such a casual and Froidiot you’d have heard…

t turns out Corrales' weight problems were far more substantial than he and his camp had let on, and that he was also suffering from bronchitis. In addition, his estranged managers, Barrett Silver and Cameron Dunkin, have filed an injunction in Clark County District Court seeking their share of the fighter's purse, an act they took when Corrales' lawyer refused to have the purse put in an escrow account until the Nevada State Athletic Commission could arbitrate the dispute.

"I felt so bad for him I had tears in my eyes during the fight," Dunkin said Wednesday. "He had nothing. He didn't have his strength and they didn't have any strategy.

"What he had was some morons who talked him into doing this."

Dunkin maintains Corrales should have bypassed fighting Mayweather until both were at 135 pounds.

"Well, (promoter) Bob Arum got his way," he said. "He wanted to put the fight together right away and the kid paid the price.

"The kid shouldn't have been fighting at 130 but Arum was forcing the fight with Floyd at that weight.

"But Floyd was always going to be there for Diego and the right time to fight would have been at 135. Maybe Diego wouldn't have won, but it would have been a completely different fight at 135."

Dunkin further believes Corrales, win or lose against Mayweather at 135, would still have been in line for fights later in his career at 147 pounds against Shane Mosley and maybe even Oscar De La Hoya. "Those are $4-5 million fights," Dunkin said, before adding another barb.

"So much for five years of hard work," he said of his involvement with Corrales.

The reality is that Corrales, while not moving back to Square 1, has been handed a substantial career setback. (He may encounter another one when his felony spousal abuse charges go to court in Sacramento next month.)

"What I'd say Diego has to do is, first, take a rest and not let his weight get out of control," Top Rank matchmaker Bruce Trampler said. "Then he needs to come back at 135 and take a couple of fights. Then we can get him a title fight."

But Corrales' chief cornerman (and father-in-law), Ray Woods, told the Sacramento Bee that Corrales' weight had been up to 168 pounds before beginning training for the fight with Mayweather. He also said Corrales weighed 140 pounds -- and not the 133 he and his nutritionist were claiming -- as recently as a week prior to the fight.

On top of that, Woods said Corrales was battling bronchitis.

"To tell you the truth, I wasn't that shocked by what happened," Woods said of Corrales being overwhelmed by Mayweather. "I just feel Diego went into this thing overconfident from the beginning and didn't really put in all the hard work he normally does. Unfortunately, he believed what a lot of people were saying, that he was too big and strong for Mayweather."

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2001/ja...les-fight-flo/

[GhostofDempsey]

Mosley refused to fight Floyd at the lower weight classes. This is on record. Same as Cotto.

Mosley left lightweight in 1999 and took two soft touches to get adjusted to welterweight; Floyd moved up to lightweight in 2002 to fight Castillo. So the only opportunity to have that fight would have been for Mosley to stay at lightweight, which he wasn't going to do as he was struggling to make weight. Floyd had called him and a bunch of other guys out after dismantling El Matador, but nobody took the bait, which is why he was lightweight champion for so long after beating Castillo.

2000, Mosley eeks out a win against Oscar and becomes unified welterweight champion. Goes on to beat two decent opponents, then runs smack into another champion, Vernon Forest, and loses his belts, then loses the rematch.

2003, he moves up to jr. middleweight. Meanwhile, Floyd is still at lightweight. So there was no chance for that fight at this point. But Floyd called him out again after dispatching Gatti - him, Cotto, Spinks, Judah and Tszyu. Spinks had beaten Judah and was The Man, unified at welterweight. Floyd dispatched Judah, then started negotiating for a Spinks fight. Mainstream media turned on Floyd, saying he was ducking Baldomir (yes, that happened), who was the current 'Eye Test' after stopping both Gatti and Judah.

In 2003, Mosley rematches Oscar, gets his hand raised. Afterwards he admitted that he took PEDs.

In 2004, Mosley was offered a third fight against Oscar for $12 million dollars. He refused. He was offered $10 million to fight Tito Trinidad. He refused. He only wanted to fight Winky Wright, because he wanted Wright's title. That was a huge mistake, because Winky dealt with him with ease and took his belts.

Mosley goes back down to welterweight so he can weight bully a bit, decimates Fernando Vargas twice, then takes a mandatory away from Luis Collazo only have a rising Miguel Cotto, WBA champion, deal with him with ease. He goes back up to 154 just to fight Mayorga, then back down to fight Margacheato for the belt that he won by making Cotto take a knee.

Then, Mosley was scheduled to fight Berto (!) for the WBC title at 147, but Berto pulled out because of the Haiti disaster, so Floyd finally got the shot. Floyd declined to fight for Mosley's title. He just wanted to punish Mosley for ducking him for years.

Berto would come back and get decimated by Victor Ortiz, who Floyd fought next to take the WBC title.


Summary:

If anyone was avoiding, it was Mosley. For YEARS. He was the only one with multiple opportunities to fight Floyd, but Mosley was chasing belts. Just like Canelo.

I already laid out the time line. Mosley called him out at 135 before moving up to fight Oscar. Later, Floyd would refuse a request to extend the fight one month after Mosley had been headbutted in a fight and had a tooth knocked loose. Mayweather avoided pre-Margarito Cotto, Margarito, Williams, Martinez, Winky, prime Pac, Khan, and later Thurman, Porter, Bradley and Danny.

[-Kev-]

He is quoting an article and putting it up for discussion, what is the beef?

Generalizing basically everyone who’s black, grouping them together because of something Floyf Mayweather Jr said.

That’s called race baiting. Look at his first sentence, “why every black fighter/fanbase”….Every? Really? Every black fighter, every black fan? That’s total race baiting. Not to mention the poster himself is a serial race baiter. He’s constantly egging on black fans.