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  • #61
    Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post
    Bud's resume still ain't great. How many Hall of Famers has he beaten?

    Has nothing to do with his talent.
    How many HOFers has Parnell Whitaker beaten...... How many HOFers has Mike Tyson beaten........ How many HOFers has Sugar Ray Robinson beaten....... You can't name majority of the people on their resumes without a google search....... let alone just run off the names of the HOF opponents.......

    Crawford's job is not to make sure who ever he beats has a great career. His job is to climb the ranks and beat those in his way... Crawford is fighting other world class opponents. In the last decade he's fought JUST ONE fighter who wasn't ranked in the top 10 of the division and that was Amir Khan...... it's ignorant to try to belittle his dominance because you aren't a fan of his opponents or know very little about them......

    3x Lineal......he's not fighting chumps.....2x Undisputed........ that means the other champions can't keep him from accomplishing his goals either.......

    How is it that Crawford is so respected by mfers who are actually apart of this sport.....not just silly mfers who watch it. So many current HOFers greeted and congratulated Crawford 2 years ago as he became the FIRST AND ONLY active fighter to have his fist engraved at the Boxing Hall of Fame ceremony.......not one suggested he didn't deserve to be up on that stage with them......

    But then we have your post here......... Funny how a WiFi connection makes a random mfer feel more important than they actually are.....lol.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Hotsauce91 View Post
      He's only beaten Spence
      Go sit your silly ass down and read. You don't even watch boxing.... If you think he only beat Spence....then explain his 9 world titles..... explain his 3 lineal championships (do you know what lineal is?).....explain the 2 Fighter of the Year Awards.......explain how he is one of 3 boxers to ever win an ESPY Award.... Explain how he's the only male boxer to gain 2 Undisputed titles.......

      Whole lot of explanation is need from a silly mfer who think Crawford has only beat Spence........the mfer that ignorant fans like you glorified as the Boogie Man, Big Fish, Eye Snatcher, Mr. Man Down, Strap Season, etc....... Crawford made light work of him.....literally.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        He hasnt beat an ATG in Prime so he might have to fight at 160 for one fight to make statement. Nobodies asking him to campaign there
        Who did Floyd beat that was an "ATG in their Prime"........Maybe Ricky Hatton........ Stop the silliness. Floyd beat opponents when they were in front of him and he did what he did, not based on where they are in their career, but the fact they are in the ring at that moment.

        Crawford fought Gamboa while he was undefeated and top 5 p4p by Ring Magazine......Beat an undefeated Viktor Postol......... Beat the man who bullied the legend in Jeff Horn...... Gutted the "Big Fish" like no other........ Crawford has shown himself to be elite above his peers but y'all want to constantly throw out silly rebuttals because you can go in history and find recognizable names to say this guy had a better career..... That's hindsight B.S.

        Marvin Hagler was disrespected his entire career. Outside of his fights vs Sugar, Hearns, & Duran, 90% of this board couldn't name 5 opponents without a WiFi connection. And that's a man who had damn near 70 pro fights. But today we classify Hagler as one of the ATG..... One of the 4 Kings.......

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point View Post

          Go sit your silly ass down and read. You don't even watch boxing.... If you think he only beat Spence....then explain his 9 world titles..... explain his 3 lineal championships (do you know what lineal is?).....explain the 2 Fighter of the Year Awards.......explain how he is one of 3 boxers to ever win an ESPY Award.... Explain how he's the only male boxer to gain 2 Undisputed titles.......

          Whole lot of explanation is need from a silly mfer who think Crawford has only beat Spence........the mfer that ignorant fans like you glorified as the Boogie Man, Big Fish, Eye Snatcher, Mr. Man Down, Strap Season, etc....... Crawford made light work of him.....literally.

          in terms of HOFs he's only beaten Spence. That's if Spence makes it to the HOF

          And i picked Bud to beat Spence

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post
            Bud's resume still ain't great. How many Hall of Famers has he beaten?

            Has nothing to do with his talent.

            u don't think Spence can make the HOF??

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            • #66
              Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

              Ideally not drain the 160 guy. It is only 1 fight there, people will wonder if the zero is so important?. But it's up to bud, a C W will t ake shine off win but it's better than nothing.
              Why does Bud need to jump to a weight to face mfers who are naturally 40+ lbs heavier than him to prove he is worthy of praise..... That's ignorant...

              Spence street weight is north of 185lbs....easily around 200. He and the Charlos have expressed this. Crawford started his career at 135 and bullied Spence......Crawford is dominating the divisions he's moving up to. He says he's going to move up to 154 next...... He doesn't need to fight some middle weight to prove his worth to some ignorant a$$ fans who aren't interested in giving him props in the first place. That's like belittling Michael Jordan's dunk from the free throw line and saying, but you need to dunk from the 3 point line to get my respect.....

              His milestone is already amazing and deserves respect. Silly mfers need to see Crawford bruised and beaten in order to believe in him.....FOH. That man is gaining the accolades, getting the respect from the pundits, and being paid well for it...... Who TF are we to claim he hasn't done "this" vs a middleweight.

              I guess we shouldn't give Canelo any praise, he's never beaten a Heavyweight.....neither did Jake LaMotta.....and many other middle weights.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point View Post

                How many HOFers has Parnell Whitaker beaten...... How many HOFers has Mike Tyson beaten........ How many HOFers has Sugar Ray Robinson beaten....... You can't name majority of the people on their resumes without a google search....... let alone just run off the names of the HOF opponents.......

                Crawford's job is not to make sure who ever he beats has a great career. His job is to climb the ranks and beat those in his way... Crawford is fighting other world class opponents. In the last decade he's fought JUST ONE fighter who wasn't ranked in the top 10 of the division and that was Amir Khan...... it's ignorant to try to belittle his dominance because you aren't a fan of his opponents or know very little about them......

                3x Lineal......he's not fighting chumps.....2x Undisputed........ that means the other champions can't keep him from accomplishing his goals either.......

                How is it that Crawford is so respected by mfers who are actually apart of this sport.....not just silly mfers who watch it. So many current HOFers greeted and congratulated Crawford 2 years ago as he became the FIRST AND ONLY active fighter to have his fist engraved at the Boxing Hall of Fame ceremony.......not one suggested he didn't deserve to be up on that stage with them......

                But then we have your post here......... Funny how a WiFi connection makes a random mfer feel more important than they actually are.....lol.
                You wrote all that for no damn reason. I said his resume isn't great and I'm right. Oscar has a better resume.

                Again, it has nothing to do with Bud's talent.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point View Post
                  All the way up til July 29th, 2023.....many of the "non Crawford fans" wanted to claim that he had fought nobody because their favorite fighter said as much. But when we look at how other fighters are praised, it's easy to see that the energy changes when it comes to evaluating Crawford and his accomplishments.

                  Anytime you see a list of accolades that consist of 9x World Champion across 3 divsions. 3x Lineal Champion, 2x Undisputed, 2x Fighter of the Year, ESPY Award Winner.........no question you consider that fighter as one of the top 5 greats of all time or at least have an argument.....but because it's Terence Crawford who comes from a city that isn't known for producing world class fighters. He has to have explanations attached to his achievements in some people's eyes.

                  This man when to a foreign land as a relative no name fighter and won his first world title by dominating the hometown hero. Ricky Burns is bigger in his homeland than Danny Garcia, Shawn Porter, Keith Thurman, or Errol Spence Jr. is here in the U.S.

                  Crawford then defends his title vs an undefeated Yuriorkis Gamboa who a was top5 p4p by The Ring Magazine at the time. People give Gamboa more love for landing a clean punch on Crawford in the 6th round in between Crawford's attack than they do to Crawford for putting Gamboa on the canvas multiple times in route to a stoppage. Amazingly, Gamboa clearly hasn't been the same since his fight vs Crawford. Today he's maybe a C-Class opponent, but Tank Davis & Devin Haney got ultimate praise for going into the championship rounds with him on their way to a victory. But Crawford has "fought nobody".......

                  Crawford followed that up with a title defense with Ray Beltran... The man who arguably was "robbed" vs Ricky Burns and should have been the champ.... Crawford decided to give him another opportunity being that he was the #2 in the division. Gives him the same treatment he did to Burns.

                  Dulorme in his prime at 140lbs decides to give Crawford his first challenge as he decided to move up from 135lbs.....Crawford stops him to gain his 2nd world title in as many divisions. Dulorme goes on to lose 5 of his next 8 bouts. One of them was a 1st round stoppage vs Jaron Boots Ennis at a division Dulorme doesn't belong in. 147lbs. Ennis claims to be bigger, stronger than the elites at welterweight, but he builds his signature wins on smaller fighters moving up like Lipinets and Dulorme..... Boots got ultimate praise for getting the stoppage of Dulorme....the same guy that is one of the "nobodies" that Crawford had on his resume.

                  Dierry Jean came into his fight vs Crawford with a 4 bout win streak after his only lost to Lamont Peterson.... Crawford dismantle him. Jean fought one more time and hung up his gloves.

                  Hank Lundy is just a motor mouth to me and was the first to try to get personal with Crawford and we saw where he ended up.

                  Viktor Postol was suppose to be the guy to expose Crawford. He was trained by Freddie Roach. It was suppose to be the fight that challenged Crawford to see if he was equipped and qualified to share a ring with Manny Pacquiao. Crawford 12-0'ed Postol and ever since then....Manny has been in protective custody from Crawford.

                  Molina was a sacrificial lamb for PBC.....Molina's awkward style never posed a threat. He was at best a gate keeper....but I wouldn't even give him that much praise.

                  Felix Diaz was a decent opponent. In my opinion a fighter that prepare Crawford for a fight he would be in years later vs Porter. Diaz was a short hefty fighter who pressures constantly. Diaz came in the ring north of 160lbs fight night even though he weighted in at 140 the night before. Diaz's only loss was to Lamont Peterson 2 years prior.

                  Julius Indongo....a little known unified champ by American Fans, and arguably most of the boxing world. Career was built in Namibia, his homeland and then dared to be great by taking his talents to Russia & then Scotland for back to back title bouts and came out as a unified champ. Then brings his talents to the U.S. where he runs into Crawford's body snatching hook that ends his greatness on spot.

                  Now we have Crawford challenging all the champions at welterweight and the new term "wrong side of the street" becomes the cliche.

                  Jeff Horn goes 12 rounds with Manny and gets a questionable decision over him. But it was clear that he was too big and strong for Manny to take him out. Crawford smacks him around in the worse way.

                  Jose Benavidez gets shot in his leg...out for 2 years. Comes back and stops 2 opponents before challenging Crawford. One of those opponents were stopped in the 1st round I believe. Neither of those fights did Jose wear a sleeve on his knee nor was it questioned for his competition. But here comes Crawford and the week before the fight, it's mentioned during an All Access episode and now attention is directed to Jose's knee. Though he sparred in my gym the week before with no brace.....he enters the ring vs Crawford with one on. Never really had a upper hand at any point in the fight but did have a nice snap to start.... Come 5/6th round, Crawford's body attack was beginning to take it's toll and Benavidez wants to lean on the ropes rather than pressing Crawford like he did the first few rounds. Late Stoppage....

                  Khan comes in as the first unranked opponent Crawford has faced in his professional career since 2012 when he faced Sidney Siqueira. The the Khan fight only occurred because Danny Garcia turned down a $3M offered from Top Rank for a title shot, which to this day is still his largest guarantee. Crawford did to Amir Khan in the first round what took Canelo 6 rounds to do........put him on the ground.... Khan was looking for a way out by the end of the 2nd round.

                  I think I've talked long enough...But my point is........ Crawford breaks down his opponents physically and mentally in that ring. All while gaining his own rhythm and then obliterates the opposition. And he makes it look so much easier than it is. And because the names aren't "sexy" to American Fans....then the notion is "he hasn't fought anybody".....But these are all world class competition. Former Olympians, World Champions, highly ranked division opponents......Crawford is head and shoulders better at the end of the night.

                  Now we have Errol Spence Jr who gets THE EXACT SAME treatment the others gotten and people are some how surprised.... As if Crawford hasn't shown he's capable of doing this to his opponents for a long time now.

                  So now, I'm sitting listening to different fan bases (Spence fans, Crawford fans, boxing fans, etc....) analyze what we witnessed last weekend. Is Spence another one of these "nobodies" that Crawford has faced, being that he had less success than both Brooke, Porter, Avaneysan, and Kavaliauskas had all together......or are we going to legit look at the greatness that Crawford has given us over the course of his career without taking every opportunity to discredit him due to the names not being popular to American Fans.

                  Or................as a 3rd option........are we going to justify and create various excuses as to why Crawford was able to dominate Spence in the manner he did.....weight drained....car accident.....damaged eye.........and I just saw the new rumor.........apparently Terence had questionable gloves...similar to the Tyson Fury rumors........lol.
                  In TODAYS boxing the answer is “no” BUT on the grand scale of boxing HISTORY. He is still very iffy. Damn good fighter but how would he fair with a PRIME Mayweather. Delahoya, Pac, Mosley, Trinidad, Winky, Whitaker, Leonard & Hearns???????
                  I just don’t see him whipping any of them.
                  Last edited by MONGOOSE66; 08-08-2023, 10:20 PM.
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                  • #69
                    TLDR. No idea what the TS is talking about since I didn't read. Though to sum to the conclusion, Crawford is TMFM right now. Give him his flowers (so gay but that's what they like to say now). He deserves all the recognition possible before retirement.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                      but horn was no fulton and only in 3rd division and pac fought in australia. No, i don't want to see bud lose i want to see him do what inoue is doing. But if you ask to see bud do what inou e is doing you get called a hater.
                      No, don't go to 160, only if bud thinks he can beat someone there. 147 and 154 will keep him busy
                      horn was undefeated and just beat a hof legend in manny. Fulton had 2 md wins against bums and then almost got stopped by figueroa. He was waiting to be stopped.

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