That always makes my point about Floyd though. Pac was a WW even back then. He was coming into the ring at 146-147 fighting at FW and SFW while Floyd was coming into the ring at 146-148 at WW going against guys like Baldy who were 165. Its night & day yet people think Floyd was supposed to brutaly KO those guys like Pac was doing his guys
he was in the mid 130's range fight night at featherweight.
he wasn't around 146-147 fight night 'til his last few fights at super featherweight.
he was in the mid 130's range fight night at featherweight.
he wasn't around 146-147 fight night 'til his last few fights at super featherweight.
But he's been weighing in the mid 140s for a while now even the Morales 3 fight, I think he weighed 144/5?
My whole argument is that he's a natural JWW, albeit a small JWW, and that his giant calves and lower body make-up a large portion of his body weight. So when he's "moved" up in weight and supposedly looks the same as a sign of taking roids that's not necessarily the case. It wouldn't be as noticeable if a significant amount of his weight came from his legs.
And even then he's looked different from 130 to 150+. I'll posts some pics later.
But he's been weighing in the mid 140s for a while now even the Morales 3 fight, I think he weighed 144/5?
My whole argument is that he's a natural JWW, albeit a small JWW, and that his giant calves and lower body make-up a large portion of his body weight. So when he's "moved" up in weight and supposedly looks the same as a sign of taking roids that's not necessarily the case. It wouldn't be as noticeable if a significant amount of his weight came from his legs.
And even then he's looked different from 130 to 150+. I'll posts some pics later.
natural junior welterweights don't come in the mid 140's fight night.
people need to stop thinking if a guy comes in fight night at 160 he's a middleweight or if he comes in at 147 he's a welterweight.
99.9% of fighters cut weight.
guys who fight at 147 come in around 160.
guys who fight at 160 come in around 175.
and so on.....
people make me laugh when they say things like , "pacquiao came in at welterweight at 130!"
natural junior welterweights don't come in the mid 140's fight night.
people need to stop thinking if a guy comes in fight night at 160 he's a middleweight or if he comes in at 147 he's a welterweight.
99.9% of fighters cut weight.
guys who fight at 147 come in around 160.
guys who fight at 160 come in around 175.
and so on.....
people make me laugh when they say things like , "pacquiao came in at welterweight at 130!"
lol so were his opponents......
But most Super featherweights don't rehydrate 16lbs like Pacquiao. I think that's where I'm going at. Pacquiao's rehydration seems more similar to lightweight and JWWs. I've never seen somebody rehydrate 16lbs. not unless they've grown out of the division or they're draining themselves just to make the weight. Maybe at one point Pacquiao could rehydrate 14-16lbs from 130 without affecting but that doesn't seem like the case anymore. Even Roach comments on Pacquiao's weight increase when he was fighting at 130 after weigh-ins where he ate a lot after starving himself in his most recent fights at SFW.
Cotto was rehydrating 17/18 lbs. from JWW and he was severely drained.
But most Super featherweights don't rehydrate 16lbs like Pacquiao. I think that's where I'm going at. Pacquiao's rehydration seems more similar to lightweight and JWWs. I've never seen somebody rehydrate 16lbs. not unless they've grown out of the division or they're draining themselves just to make the weight. Even Roach comments on Pacquiao's weight increase when he was fighting at 130 after weigh-ins where he ate a lot after starving himself.
Cotto was rehydrating 17/18 lbs. from JWW and he was severely drained.
You and pink are both making the same point with different interpretations of it.
Pac only came in the 140s from the 3rd Morales fight on up. Part of that was because of the delay in his shot at the title because of the lawsuit over his promotional rights that delayed his title shot for a year and a half. That is why they moved up as well.
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