Spence was shopworn. Lets not get carried away with Crawford hype.

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  • BLASTER1
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    #81
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    nobodies getting carried away. If he stepped up to 154 he d be underdog, whereas inoue could step up another division and be betting favourite and win. Bud, not so much
    How do you know he would be the underdog.
    IMO and probably MANY bet sets he definitely be the favourite

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    • hugh grant
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      #82
      Originally posted by buddyr
      if anyone wants to use the exuse of Spence being shopworn(and I'm not letting them) then WHY THE F*K WERE 90% OF THE INTERNET PICKING HIM TO WIN???
      Weren't most saying spence was overrated there's a thread saying such also by jake the boxer. If some had spence to win it was again because spence was overrated and yes bud underated.too. So it's a combination of both, spence being worse than we thought, and bud being better.
      But don't go overboard on win. If bud is good he can show it in next fights, he's no1 WW now

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        #83
        Originally posted by BLASTER1

        How do you know he would be the underdog.
        IMO and probably MANY bet sets he definitely be the favourite
        This is good news for bud, if he is betting favourite he can theoretically be no1 pfp, as people are putting their money where their mouth is and have faith in him. But then bud would actually need to beat charlo, then it can go from theoretically being no1 to actually being no1
        But Inoue is no1, as he has 4 titles in 4 divisions and people have even more faith in Inoue.
        Inou e as betting favourite in first fight in 5th division, don't bet against it. Whether Inoue would win though is another topic
        Last edited by hugh grant; 07-31-2023, 04:09 AM.

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        • Johnny Rubber
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          #84
          Crawford was spectacular. Lets not get carried away with the Spence excuses

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          • Johnny Rubber
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            #85
            Originally posted by Floyd is TBE

            I think prime Spence gives him a tough fight. Current version of Spence is a journeyman.
            I think you're full of salt matey. Crawford fkd him up so bad that his face looked even worse than it did after the car accident, but a top 5 p4p fighter was entering the ring as a journeyman by your logic .

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              #86
              Originally posted by daggum

              Was Floyd fighting the best? Clearly not. You can make an argument Spence is a better win than any Floyd win and you can make an argument Floyd had no top level wins since Castillo. 2 decades of mediocrity but the prime opponents aren't there by his choosing. Bunch of old shopworn guys. Crawford has been pummeling those type of Khan brook opponents. If he fought old guys for another 5 years surely he will be better than Floyd right
              Now Spence better than Mosley, Oscar, Pacquiao, Canelo, Cotto, Marquez, Castillo, Maidina, etc. Seriously y'all need to lay off the crack.

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              • IceTrayDaGang
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                #87
                ya cant keep making up excuses!! this is a great win for TC. the fact that he made it look eazy... ya can say what ya want about spence but ya know TC made that shiiet look eazy.

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                • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
                  The car accidents, the inactivity, the detached retina (which was for sure affecting his preripheral vision and depth perception). This wasn't the same Spence. Nice win for Crawford, but that wasn't prime Spence.
                  This wasn't Prime Bud either. He dominated Spence. No excuses.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Floyd is TBE

                    Now Spence better than Mosley, Oscar, Pacquiao, Canelo, Cotto, Marquez, Castillo, Maidina, etc. Seriously y'all need to lay off the crack.
                    That's the point I made about Kevin Iole's post.

                    Kevin Iole had Spence #5 on his list.

                    Yet for some reason, and seems like most on NSB agree with him, they've decided that beating Spence makes you #1 P4P.

                    Of the list you have, I would say Spence is only above Maidana. Only.

                    Everyone else on there is a damn Hall of Famer or soon to be one. It's not close. That's not even counting Chico Corrales, Chicanito Hernandez, etc.

                    The hypocrisy is real too, because let's be honest: going strictly by the performance, Spence cannot be Crawford's best win at 147. That would have to arguably be Jose Benavidez.

                    Even Horn was taking and landing better than Spence did. Are we suggesting that Jeff Horn is/was better than Errol Spence?

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                    • davef
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                      #90
                      it’s not about getting carried away i’ve seen countless posts so far thankfully who are aware that it doesn’t matter what version of Spence showed up it’s clear he was never going to beat Crawford who has way more to his game

                      Spence was tailor made for him and the result would always be the same now or 2019 etc

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