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Originally posted by sege64 View PostThey should fight in multiple disciplines.
Boxing: Fury wins boringly.
MMA: Better have the medics on standby...
Bar room brawl: Depends if Fury is allowed to use a glass?
WWE: Fury wins obviously.
That looks like a 3-1 win to Fury to me, conclusively proving he is the better man beyond all doubt. Unless they do the MMA fight first, in which case it's 1-0 and game over. RIP Gypsy King.
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Originally posted by Butt stuff View Post
Interesting point. I remember Mayweather being surprised at how strong McGregor was in the clinch and at how easily he was manoeuvring him around. McGregor was also the bigger man though.
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because wilders unique style and the fact him and ngannou has unworldy power would have been the best to only boxing crossover to make. under boxing rules this is a fury win by late ko or dec either way a fury win. if this was mma ngannou would win by ko but itd be nice to see fury get handled grappling. ngannou is an animal mma wise dude beat cyril gane a striker using his wrestling because he fought with a torn acl and mcl. most folks wouldve pulled out delayed ext but dana was f... him over pay wise. now he gets 20-30m to box and 5-10m per mma fight ensures his opps get 1m min which unless your the ufc champ or mcgregor you aint seeing that for a fight(1m) none but mcgegor is seeing ngannou money not even bones jones. That fight itself warrents 20-25m a piece ngannou n jones but dana wouldnt pay that much nor ever do a cross promotion for if his fighter loses under mma rules it hurts the brand if ngannou from pfl beats jones amosov of bellator beats leon edwards khabibs cousin bellator beats islam it would hurt the ufc brand as a whole unlike allowing boxing matches to happen. comparing boxing to mma is like rugby to american football similar some came tranfer but its a different sport in general.
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If Ngannou somehow gets the victory the mainstream sports media will have a heyday with it. Boxing will take a long time to recover.
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Ngannou is 36 (will be 37 by the time they fight), hasn't fought in 18 months and has a bum knee. His only chance is to go ape s**t and just bum-rush Fury like he did Rozenstruik. Treat it like a two round fight.
If he tries to box he will get systematically picked apart round by round. His feet are slow, his fighting temperament is lazy and he gasses out. MMA and boxing are of course different sports, but one of the most overlooked differences is in the cardio. MMA is largely anaerobic, it requires explosive full-body movements and short bursts of energy. Boxing is predominantly aerobic. It's like the difference between a long jog and a series of sprints. Thus the training regimens also differ with MMA placing more emphasis on heavy weight-lifting. Francis' body is built for MMA where sheer physical strength is of greater importance. All that bulk will not benefit him in boxing. He won't last ten rounds.
I haven't looked at the betting odds yet but I have to imagine the smart money is on Ngannou getting stopped in the second half of the fight based on accumulation and exhaustion (funnily enough like McGregor when he fought Mayweather). The cream rises to the top as they say, so Francis must trouble Fury early somehow otherwise he's in for a long painful night.
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Originally posted by baroidi View Postit's under boxing rules with boxing gloves right?, he isn't gonna be able to clinch or do Thai hooks. Do MMA fans get tired of their top fighters fighting under boxing rules?
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I think it's Ngannou's best bet is try to make it a close range fight because at long range he'll just get out jabbed all night. Funny, I suggested this very game plan to Ngannou on Twitter but I doubt he actually read the message.
Go watch Ngannou vs Gane, his last fight. Ngannou barely landed a clean punch all night because Gane had good footwork and kept him on the outside for some portions of the fight. Ngannou's main success came when he got Gane in the clinch, stand-up grappling and groundwork. He didn't do well fighting Gane from long range. So if he had trouble catching Gane from outside, Fury could potentially just toy with him from outside with the jab, similar to how he did with Chisora in their last 2 meetings.
Ngannou has a very good stand-up grappling game in MMA. It's similar to the boxing clinch but you get more leverage and grip due to the smaller gloves and open fingers. But if can transfer some of that to boxing he might be able to out-muscle Fury in the clinch, which will probably be a rare thing for Fury to experience and might throw him off his game a little. And that might create some openings for Ngannou to land shots from mid to close range. Basically, he has to make it one of those scrappy, messy fights like Okolie often does. Risky strategy though. Gives Fury more opportunity to do his own inside work.
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Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post
Lol you must have been watching a different bout or you are just the typical low IQ Brit Tyson Fury fanboy. Wallin was winning against Fury and then slowed down. Then he picked it back up in the later rounds and had Fury hurt in the 12th round. Also Tyson Fury demolished who? Derek Chisora a third rate bum who David Haye smashed years ago? Wait wait Fury demolished Dillian Whyte the guy who Anthony Joshua and a old Alexander Povetkin spanked first? Wait I know Fury demolished a small 180 pound Steve Cunnigham by getting dropped and outboxed? Wait I know you mean how Fury demolished Wilder in the 1st and 3rd of their fights by getting knocked down 4 times? Let me guess Fury demolished a 40 year old Wlad by running for 12 rounds?
Fury outboxed Wlad in a boring fight but he still outboxed him nonetheless.
Fury outboxed Wilder after losing almost 100lbs and years of drug and alcohol abuse. Then he demolished Wilder in the rematch. For the final fight Fury got COVID, his newborne almost died, and he had bone spurs.
In the first fight Fury got knocked down once in the 12th and won the rest of the round after the KD.
In the third fight Fury got knocked down once and then got hit with a rabbit punch. Besides that Wilder got demolished the entire fight.
No need to get butthurt little buddy.
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Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post
Right I didn't ask you what Tyson Fury is listed as. I told you his actual height. He is 6'7. Second the fact you think everything you read online is actually legit and think Tyson Fury is 6'9 proves you are a 12 year old kid who thinks he knows boxing because he watched a Logan Paul bout.
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