Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Canelo-Charlo, Haney-Stevenson, Anderson, More

[SteveM]

Canelo is fighting Charlo, and has repeatedly said he doesn't want to fight Benavidez! So do you want Benavidez to sit on his azz until Canelo agrees to fight him? I don't want that! Rarely does someone call out Benavidez, but he's gotta live one calling him out now, so fight him!

I would've loved Ortiz vs. Ennis! Now I want to see Boots win tonight, and fight Stanionis! I don't want Boots sitting on his azz waiting for Spence or Crawford! If Jermell vacates, I wouldn't mind seeing Boots go get the IBF strap at 154! Spence and Ortiz will be there soon enough anyway! I think Boots would beat Tszyu any day of the week, and twice on Sundays!

I have said "MAN UP" for Tank and Shakur! I think that's the 3rd best fight available, behind Fury vs. Usyk, and Canelo vs. Benavidez!

I hope Tszyu fights for the WBO title @ 154! Jermell should not hold up the division, and these ABCs should not let him! If he wins the WBO, then he should unify! Lubin wants Adames @ 160, so I hope Adames accepts the challenge! MAN UP!

Haney needs to go to 140! That 25% offer to Shakur is ridiculous! I bet he won't accept 25% from Prograis! Probably not even from Tank, and Tank is WAY bigger star then Devin!

I can't fault any of those fights or your reasoning - I don't even fault Jermell going up to fight Canelo. Great fight. But I do fault the belt orgs for not freeing up the belts.

If Jermell goes up to 168 he is going to put on more muscle and I don't expect to see him fight at 154 again. he has no business at 168 so I expect him to fight at 160 win or lose to Canelo. Belt Orgs can make him a champ in recess or whatever other name/title they prefer and let Tim and others such as Castano, Mendoza fight for the belts.

Same at 135 - stick some mandatories on Haney so he has to take a decision.

Ditto at 147 after the upcoming fight. Ennis can fight Stanionis in December but the winner still might be waiting a year if Bud/Spence 2 gets delayed at all - not right for the good of boxing. How can you get behind a boxer as a fan when they only fight once a year or once every 99 months at best?

[millcitymauler]

WTH is bread talking about. If canelo is not the biggest puncher jermell has ever faced then who is it. And this bread guy always favours black fighters because he's black. Jermell doesn't even have 1% chance against Canelo. Bread has always maintained that ggg beat canelo in the 1st fight so I want to test him if he's consistent or not with his judgements by sending mail on few occasions for Castillo vs Mayweather 1 fight because everyone knows Castillo whooped Mayweathers ass in the 1st fight but he's never picked up my mail regarding this topic which shows that he don't want to mention Floyd's loss cause he knows that floyd lost that fight.

Saying Castillo “whipped Floyd’s azz” in their first fight is a bit of a stretch. Watching the fight live, I admit I thought JLC won, but only because I was rooting for him…I’ve watched the fight at least five times since, and I have Floyd winning every time. The fight was definitely close.

[100million]

Benavidez can hardly make weight . Canelo is not afraid of Benavidez . Canelo is gonna fight Benavidez in 1 year or 2 years max . Canelo is gonna win easy. No catchweight bull#$%. I'ts Just that the longer it takes them to fight , is gonna be harder and harder for weightbully Benavidez to make weight. This fight is gonna look almost idéntical like the fight with Chavez jr.

You heard it here first.

[Bronx2245]

I can't fault any of those fights or your reasoning - I don't even fault Jermell going up to fight Canelo. Great fight. But I do fault the belt orgs for not freeing up the belts.

If Jermell goes up to 168 he is going to put on more muscle and I don't expect to see him fight at 154 again. he has no business at 168 so I expect him to fight at 160 win or lose to Canelo. Belt Orgs can make him a champ in recess or whatever other name/title they prefer and let Tim and others such as Castano, Mendoza fight for the belts.

Same at 135 - stick some mandatories on Haney so he has to take a decision.

Ditto at 147 after the upcoming fight. Ennis can fight Stanionis in December but the winner still might be waiting a year if Bud/Spence 2 gets delayed at all - not right for the good of boxing. How can you get behind a boxer as a fan when they only fight once a year or once every 99 months at best?

Yeah, Jermall and Jermell need to be stripped!

[Oregonian]

WTH is bread talking about. If canelo is not the biggest puncher jermell has ever faced then who is it. And this bread guy always favours black fighters because he's black. Jermell doesn't even have 1% chance against Canelo. Bread has always maintained that ggg beat canelo in the 1st fight so I want to test him if he's consistent or not with his judgements by sending mail on few occasions for Castillo vs Mayweather 1 fight because everyone knows Castillo whooped Mayweathers ass in the 1st fight but he's never picked up my mail regarding this topic which shows that he don't want to mention Floyd's loss cause he knows that floyd lost that fight.

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Floyd beat Castillo 7-5 … we don’t need Bread to tell us who won that fight when we can watch it ourselves.

[Timur78]

Just knew Bread would like the "Canelo vs Jermell Charlo match up", and say all the positive things about it.

But totally neglect the truth at the same time.
Somewhere along the way Breadman lost his objectivity and hence relevance.

So here you are Bread (hope you read this):
Jermell Charlo would rather get knocked out for a lot of money by Canelo,
than be stopped or beaten up by Tszyu for much less money.

Jermell understands that with Tszyu he likely loses all four belts, his undisputed and his credibility as an "Iron Man".
But it is no shame to go up two weight classes and be knocked out like a clown (a la Amir Khan) by Canelo.
At least the money will be there. And money is why professional fighters fight, at the end of the day.

Say it like it is, for once.

[The D3vil]

“It’s almost like why in the hell would a tangle with that young animal if I don't have to. ”
We all know this is Canelo’s mindset and it’s pathetic. Imagine if older fighters like Floyd, Mosley, Cotto, and Kovalev had that same mindset. Canelo’s career would look much different if those guys didn’t take those chances vs him , and they all did it at ages much older than what Canelo is now. It’s a punk move on his part.

Man, wasn't nobody afraid of Canelo like they are Benavidez

Floyd fought him because he watched Austin Trout out land him and knew he could take advantage of the Mexican fanbase and pick up an easy check

Mosley fought him because he was done as a top fighter & needed the cash

Cotto fought him because he had to for the title

Kovalev fought him solely for the cash.

None of those situations are similar to Canelo/Benavidez

Those dudes weren't "daring to be great".

If Canelo is the biggest puncher than why did he fail to KO Ryder?

Why did he fail to even KD, much less KO GGG, Jacobs, Lara, and Mayweather?

Why did he fail to KO Austin Trout?

You guys are deluded because he KO'd a bunch of C and B- fighters at 168lbs.

Canelo is no great puncher

Um, nobody's ever knocked down GGG or Mayweather (for real)

Canelo became a bigger puncher as he picked up weight 168 & 175

I find it hilarious how the haters will crap and say Canelo is a cherry picker regardless of who he fights. Let me break it down like this, when Canelo jumped up 2 weight divisions to face Kovalev, all the haters would say Canelo is cherry picking because Kovalev is past his prime. After the Ryder fight, all the haters keeped saying that Canelo is done, past his prime.... Charlo in this instance, is being praised for jumping 2 weight divisions to take on Canelo, but if you haters are saying Canelo is passed his prime, isn't the cherry picker Charlo in this instance? Since he's basically doing the same thing Canelo did, jumping weight to take on a past his prime champion? How's that for logic for all the haters? The reality of all this, is that in boxing, no matter if you're fighting, if it's a young lion, an old champ, or a journeyman, there will always be risk, someone is coming for your head and you can get seriously hurt if things don't go as planned. So to call any fighter a cherry picker, is absolute non sense, especially coming from people sitting at home who have never laced up the gloves, gotten in the ring with whoever it might be, because that person is coming for you and danger always lurks. That's why I respect all fighters, especially guys who are willing to go up and lay everything down, if anything, taking on guys who are not in weight division ( up or down) is riskier, if Canelo loses this fight, it would be a harder blow to his career since he's taking on a so called" Smaller " guy. At the end of the day haters are going to hate. For the record Canelo went after bigger Charlo but he didn't want the smoke, so here we are....

Um, in both cases, Canelo is the A-side who makes the fight happen.

HE fought Kovalev because he was old and vulnerable while holding a title

HE's fighting Charlo because Charlo's been injured and is 2 weight classes down.

Charlo couldn't "cherrypick" Canelo if he wanted to, he doesn't have the money to.

[Doubledagger]

Um, nobody's ever knocked down GGG or Mayweather (for real)

Canelo became a bigger puncher as he picked up weight 168 & 175

I'm pretty sure I mentioned Trout, Jacobs, and Lara too. You can add old man Cotto to that list too.

More like he started fighting Euro bums as moved old, washed up Kovalev is he moved up weight.

[Apollo7]

I'm pretty sure I mentioned Trout, Jacobs, and Lara too. You can add old man Cotto to that list too.

More like he started fighting Euro bums as moved old, washed up Kovalev is he moved up weight.

Tbf you could probably make a similar argument for any of Jermell's previous opponents.

[Jab jab boom]

Man, wasn't nobody afraid of Canelo like they are Benavidez

Floyd fought him because he watched Austin Trout out land him and knew he could take advantage of the Mexican fanbase and pick up an easy check

Mosley fought him because he was done as a top fighter & needed the cash

Cotto fought him because he had to for the title

Kovalev fought him solely for the cash.

None of those situations are similar to Canelo/Benavidez

Those dudes weren't "daring to be great".




Um, nobody's ever knocked down GGG or Mayweather (for real)

Canelo became a bigger puncher as he picked up weight 168 & 175



Um, in both cases, Canelo is the A-side who makes the fight happen.

HE fought Kovalev because he was old and vulnerable while holding a title

HE's fighting Charlo because Charlo's been injured and is 2 weight classes down.

Charlo couldn't "cherrypick" Canelo if he wanted to, he doesn't have the money to.

Not sure if you’re a mind reader as far as why those guys took the fights with canelo (and you’re wrong about Cotto because he didn’t need to fight canelo for the belt. Canelo wasn’t a mandatory and as a matter of fact, Cotto dropped his belt days before the fight to avoid sanctioning fees) but the point is that at older ages, they were willing to face a young canelo. At 33 canelo clearly doesn’t want any problems with a younger fighter and is basically being a punk. If those names didn’t face Canelo, his resume would be left mainly with a controversial win vs Lara, judges assisted draw/win vs 35/36 yr old ggg and unifying a weak division against Brits and plant.