Get real. Wilder is a garbage. He has always been

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  • BattlingNelson
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    #11
    Originally posted by daggum

    its almost all about popularity. baldomir was the "champ" when floyd fought him but he got like 2 dollars to fight floyd because no one cared or knew who he was. wilder seems far more popular than ruiz but then again i dont think many people care about wilder anymore after he lost so many times, then again no one ever cared about ruiz
    Watch nsb. Plenty of people still believe the hype. Unreal but the truth.

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    • daggum
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      #12
      Originally posted by Boxfan83

      Lets not act like if Wilder was in the Lennox Lewis or Kilitchko era we all wouldnt be at the edge of our seats fighting those guys. Wilder isnt some Master boxer but his power makes him 50/50 with most great HW's.
      yeah but what is that based on? like i said hes knocked out 1 of the 3 top 10 guys he has fought so relying on his power to bail him out doesnt seem very likely, and lets not forget most great hw's have far more power than fury who knocked him out twice, so the far more likely outcome is wilder being knocked out by them, and if not then losing on the cards. could he ko a great hw? sure its possible but seems fantastical to give him that much credit based on his poor resume and lacking performances

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      • uppercut510
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        #13
        Lol avid poster calling a pro boxer garbage

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        • daggum
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          #14
          Originally posted by uppercut510
          Lol avid poster calling a pro boxer garbage
          some posters just arent very good at posting, maybe OP is the wilder of boxingscene?

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            #15
            Originally posted by daggum

            hes fought 3 top 10 fighters and only knocked out one(the one who was 40 years old coincidentally) thats almost always what happens when your level of competition is increased, its just wilders level of competition has been so bad that people forget how boxing works
            I don't understand what you mean by that statement. Wilder has KO'd all of his opponents but Fury.

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              #16
              Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

              I don't understand what you mean by that statement. Wilder has KO'd all of his opponents but Fury.
              stirverne was in the top 10 only in the first fight. he didnt ko him. he only ko'd him in the rematch when he was shot and unranked. he ko'd ortiz(40 years old) who was in the top 10. he didnt ko fury who was in the top 10. thats 1 out of 3 top 10 opponents. a 33 percent ko ratio, or 2 out of 6 if you count the ortiz and fury rematches which once again is 33 percent. when he faces good opponents his power drops dramatically but thats nothing new, since that happens to everyone in boxing. most guys have very high ko percentages when they are fighting weak comp early in their career, and then when they step up it drops dramatically. the only thing wilder did was extend his weak level of competition much longer than the average fighter. just for comparison ggg has ko'd 9 out of his 13 top 10 opponents(didnt include third canelo fight as ggg was old and not at 160) for a 69 percent ko ratio. strangely a lot of wilder fans called ggg a bum basher who was only ko'ing bums, yet his power is largely proven(although in his biggest fights he didnt get the ko wins either which is no surprise)

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                #17
                Originally posted by daggum

                its almost all about popularity. baldomir was the "champ" when floyd fought him but he got like 2 dollars to fight floyd because no one cared or knew who he was. wilder seems far more popular than ruiz but then again i dont think many people care about wilder anymore after he lost so many times, then again no one ever cared about ruiz
                I disagree. Wilder needs ruiz and he knows it. Aside from aj that's his biggest payday. Someone said wilder should fight Miller and I think he should. It'll show wilder isn't that popular when the ppv bombs. Just like when he fought helenius or whatever his name is.

                Both guys need each other. Should be 50/50

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by HeadShots
                  Don’t discredit FURY now just because he beat Deontays ass
                  Nobody discredits Fury.

                  But to be honest, Fury discredits himself avoiding all contenders.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                    Thinking he is A side against anybody is just laughable. Last I have seen, he was Fury`s punching bag.

                    People say Wilder is elite because he was able to beat guys like Washington, Arreola, Szpilka. But than Kownacki beat these the same guys and he sucks, lol.

                    Ruiz beating Joshua is better than any Wilder`s win. Thinking the opposite is just insane.

                    And Ruiz also beat Ortiz, Ortiz is Wilder`s best win. So, what A side?
                    And Tyson Fury's best wins were over Wilder. That tells you how trash Fury is then right? Also clearly you are trolling because you know the mods won't ban you. I said Marciano,Gene Tunney, Harry Greb and other 160 to 180 pound white fighters couldn't beat any modern heavyweights and the mods banned me for a few weeks. Yet they let guys like you constantly bash black fighters without any bans.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by daggum

                      hes fought 3 top 10 fighters and only knocked out one(the one who was 40 years old coincidentally) thats almost always what happens when your level of competition is increased, its just wilders level of competition has been so bad that people forget how boxing works
                      And who did Fury knockout? A old Chisora that David Haye knocked out years ago? Dillian Whyte after Anthony Joshua and Alexander Povetkin knocked him out first? Hell Fury couldn't even knock out or knock down they glass chin old Wladimir Klitchko.

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