Disclaimer: I know nothing about the division under 122, so I can't comment on them.
126
Champions - John, Luevano, Cruz, Rojas
Other notables - Gamboa, Vazquez, Marquez
My thoughts - John hasn't shown any class against Juarez in my opinion. Luevano got knocked out by Honorio, but looks pretty okay at this point. The draw with Santiago is a bit alarming. Cruz is awful, end of story. Rojas seems to have some potential. Gamboa is a very good prospect, but there is a danger that he gets clipped by someone who can tame his wild style. Vazquez and Marquez are past their best days.
130
Champions - Soto, Guerrero, Martinez, Linares
Other notables - ... none really
My thoughts - Linares alone probably makes this division better than 126. Guerrero and Soto are pretty good too, but... outside of the champions, this division is AWFUL.
160
Champions - Pavlik, Sturm, Sylvester
Other notables - Williams
My thoughts - Pavlik is a very good fighter, but has refused to fight anyone in his title defenses. Thank god he is fighting Williams next. Sturm is not overly good. A questionable decision against Gevor and being knocked out by Castillejo is not a good sign of his ability. Sylvester is terrible. Williams alone probably keeps this division off the bottom of the list. He's such a versatile fighter, that it really brings some luster into the division after his win over Wright.
175
Champions - Pascal, Campillo, Erdei, Cloud
Other notables - Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson, Jones, Tarver
My thoughts - This is obviously not the worst division, but... the list of champions is as dismal as any I've ever seen. Cloud doesn't impress me. Pascal isn't very good either (he got rocked repeatedly by a journeyman on FNF and lost to Froch FFS). Erdei is a waste of talent and Campillo seems terrible. Hopkins and Dawson make this a decent division at worst. Johnson, Jones and Tarver sweeten it a bit more on top of that.
On your list, 175. Only because the notables are more interesting than the champions. How did this happen? And the lineal is Erdei.
Disclaimer: I know nothing about the division under 122, so I can't comment on them.
126
Champions - John, Luevano, Cruz, Rojas
Other notables - Gamboa, Vazquez, Marquez
My thoughts - John hasn't shown any class against Juarez in my opinion. Luevano got knocked out by Honorio, but looks pretty okay at this point. The draw with Santiago is a bit alarming. Cruz is awful, end of story. Rojas seems to have some potential. Gamboa is a very good prospect, but there is a danger that he gets clipped by someone who can tame his wild style. Vazquez and Marquez are past their best days.
130
Champions - Soto, Guerrero, Martinez, Linares
Other notables - ... none really
My thoughts - Linares alone probably makes this division better than 126. Guerrero and Soto are pretty good too, but... outside of the champions, this division is AWFUL.
160
Champions - Pavlik, Sturm, Sylvester
Other notables - Williams
My thoughts - Pavlik is a very good fighter, but has refused to fight anyone in his title defenses. Thank god he is fighting Williams next. Sturm is not overly good. A questionable decision against Gevor and being knocked out by Castillejo is not a good sign of his ability. Sylvester is terrible. Williams alone probably keeps this division off the bottom of the list. He's such a versatile fighter, that it really brings some luster into the division after his win over Wright.
175
Champions - Pascal, Campillo, Erdei, Cloud
Other notables - Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson, Jones, Tarver
My thoughts - This is obviously not the worst division, but... the list of champions is as dismal as any I've ever seen. Cloud doesn't impress me. Pascal isn't very good either (he got rocked repeatedly by a journeyman on FNF and lost to Froch FFS). Erdei is a waste of talent and Campillo seems terrible. Hopkins and Dawson make this a decent division at worst. Johnson, Jones and Tarver sweeten it a bit more on top of that.
You put the LHW division on that list, but not the CW division when the LHW division has much better talent. Pascal is a very good fighter, has a very interesting style, very skilled. Cloud is still young, but he was very impressive against Clinton Woods. Campillo is a good boxer. The LHW division has some good prospects like Nathan Cleverly and Karo Murat. Also Nathan Cleverly hopes to fight Zsolt Erdei by next year and end his streak of fighting nobodies. Once the prospects start stepping up in competition and SMW boxers move up to LHW, the LHW division will be hot again.
Last edited by Boxingwizard; 10-01-2009, 01:57 AM.
You put the LHW division on that list, but not the CW division when the LHW division has much better talent. Pascal is a very good fighter, has a very interesting style, very skilled. Cloud is still young, but he was very impressive against Clinton Woods. Campillo is a good boxer. The LHW division has some good prospects like Nathan Cleverly and Karo Murat. Also Nathan Cleverly hopes to fight Zsolt Erdei by next year and his streak of fighting nobodies. Once the prospects start stepping up in competition and SMW boxers move up to LHW, the LHW division will be hot again.
I specifically wrote why I put that division on there. It wasn't supposed to be getting votes, it was just interesting to me that the champions suck so much more than the notables who don't hold ABC belts. If there is a case to be made about why ABC belts have lost their status in the sport, it's the light heavyweight division.
Also, aren't you proud of me for leaving Wright off the notables in the middleweight division?
I specifically wrote why I put that division on there. It wasn't supposed to be getting votes, it was just interesting to me that the champions suck so much more than the notables who don't hold ABC belts. If there is a case to be made about why ABC belts have lost their status in the sport, it's the light heavyweight division.
Also, aren't you proud of me for leaving Wright off the notables in the middleweight division?
I didn't notice that, you're right though he's not really a threat to some of the top contenders in MW. For someone who is regarded as a really good boxer, he got brutalized by Williams.
Last edited by Boxingwizard; 10-01-2009, 03:33 AM.
Heavyweight for me. Been in terminal decline for years. The fact that Haye can get a championship fight after one HW fight shows what a joke the division is.
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