Worst division in boxing right now?

**Shadows** · 10-01-2009, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by DWiens421

Disclaimer: I know nothing about the division under 122, so I can't comment on them.

126
Champions - John, Luevano, Cruz, Rojas
Other notables - Gamboa, Vazquez, Marquez
My thoughts - John hasn't shown any class against Juarez in my opinion. Luevano got knocked out by Honorio, but looks pretty okay at this point. The draw with Santiago is a bit alarming. Cruz is awful, end of story. Rojas seems to have some potential. Gamboa is a very good prospect, but there is a danger that he gets clipped by someone who can tame his wild style. Vazquez and Marquez are past their best days.

130
Champions - Soto, Guerrero, Martinez, Linares
Other notables - ... none really
My thoughts - Linares alone probably makes this division better than 126. Guerrero and Soto are pretty good too, but... outside of the champions, this division is AWFUL.

160
Champions - Pavlik, Sturm, Sylvester
Other notables - Williams
My thoughts - Pavlik is a very good fighter, but has refused to fight anyone in his title defenses. Thank god he is fighting Williams next. Sturm is not overly good. A questionable decision against Gevor and being knocked out by Castillejo is not a good sign of his ability. Sylvester is terrible. Williams alone probably keeps this division off the bottom of the list. He's such a versatile fighter, that it really brings some luster into the division after his win over Wright.

175
Champions - Pascal, Campillo, Erdei, Cloud
Other notables - Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson, Jones, Tarver
My thoughts - This is obviously not the worst division, but... the list of champions is as dismal as any I've ever seen. Cloud doesn't impress me. Pascal isn't very good either (he got rocked repeatedly by a journeyman on FNF and lost to Froch FFS). Erdei is a waste of talent and Campillo seems terrible. Hopkins and Dawson make this a decent division at worst. Johnson, Jones and Tarver sweeten it a bit more on top of that.

I hope that doesn't come back to backfire on you.

But based on what you've got there, I'd say 130.

**Fox McCloud** · 10-01-2009, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by Shadows208

I hope that doesn't come back to backfire on you.

But based on what you've got there, I'd say 130.

I generally try to be as neutral as possible on things, but... I just cannot, for the life of me, understand why people think Froch is good. Someone said he looks like he is fighting in slow motion while you are high... it was a good description IMO. I just don't know why he fights in a boxer puncher style...

**Pullcounter** · 10-01-2009, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by DWiens421

Disclaimer: I know nothing about the division under 122, so I can't comment on them.

126
Champions - John, Luevano, Cruz, Rojas
Other notables - Gamboa, Vazquez, Marquez
My thoughts - John hasn't shown any class against Juarez in my opinion. Luevano got knocked out by Honorio, but looks pretty okay at this point. The draw with Santiago is a bit alarming. Cruz is awful, end of story. Rojas seems to have some potential. Gamboa is a very good prospect, but there is a danger that he gets clipped by someone who can tame his wild style. Vazquez and Marquez are past their best days.

130
Champions - Soto, Guerrero, Martinez, Linares
Other notables - ... none really
My thoughts - Linares alone probably makes this division better than 126. Guerrero and Soto are pretty good too, but... outside of the champions, this division is AWFUL.

160
Champions - Pavlik, Sturm, Sylvester
Other notables - Williams
My thoughts - Pavlik is a very good fighter, but has refused to fight anyone in his title defenses. Thank god he is fighting Williams next. Sturm is not overly good. A questionable decision against Gevor and being knocked out by Castillejo is not a good sign of his ability. Sylvester is terrible. Williams alone probably keeps this division off the bottom of the list. He's such a versatile fighter, that it really brings some luster into the division after his win over Wright.

175
Champions - Pascal, Campillo, Erdei, Cloud
Other notables - Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson, Jones, Tarver
My thoughts - This is obviously not the worst division, but... the list of champions is as dismal as any I've ever seen. Cloud doesn't impress me. Pascal isn't very good either (he got rocked repeatedly by a journeyman on FNF and lost to Froch FFS). Erdei is a waste of talent and Campillo seems terrible. Hopkins and Dawson make this a decent division at worst. Johnson, Jones and Tarver sweeten it a bit more on top of that.

you forgot to add HW... its absolute garbage.

**Shadows** · 10-01-2009, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by DWiens421

I generally try to be as neutral as possible on things, but... I just cannot, for the life of me, understand why people think Froch is good. Someone said he looks like he is fighting in slow motion while you are high... it was a good description IMO. I just don't know why he fights in a boxer puncher style...

Believe me bro, I'm a huge JT fan, so I know all about it. He's sort of an over-achiever, when you look at his over all skill set. But the guy has an incredible set of intangiables that make up for it.

**Fox McCloud** · 10-01-2009, 01:08 AM

Originally posted by Pullcounter

you forgot to add HW... its absolute garbage.

Klitschko and Klitschko are better than the majority of today's fighters IMO.

Originally posted by Shadows208

Believe me bro, I'm a huge JT fan, so I know all about it. He's sort of an over-achiever, when you look at his over all skill set. But the guy has an incredible set of intangiables that make up for it.

I guess... I really do think he's going winless in the SMW tournament unless he rematches Taylor (and I'd probably even pick Taylor to win that one).

**-Boxzilla-** · 10-01-2009, 01:20 AM

ya this poll means little to me without mention if hw and cruiser ehich are pretty barren as well ... ya the klits are good but look at the rest of the top 10. from ur list i would have to go with 160 ... its as barren as can be.

**Fox McCloud** · 10-01-2009, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by -Boxzilla-

ya this poll means little to me without mention if hw and cruiser ehich are pretty barren as well ... ya the klits are good but look at the rest of the top 10. from ur list i would have to go with 160 ... its as barren as can be.

Cruiser isn't too bad. Adamek and Cunningham alone are better than a couple of the division on the list, just like Klitschko and Klitschko do the same thing for heavyweight.

**Freddy Krueger** · 10-01-2009, 01:25 AM

Its middle weight its a joke, pavlik is the only real threat their. In sturms last fight some ppl think his opponent won. Plus I think sturm would get destroyed by pavlik and ko'd early.

**Ch@mpBox@PR** · 10-01-2009, 01:27 AM

MW and HW are garbage for sure!!!!!!

Worst division in boxing right now?