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Originally posted by archiemoore1 View PostErrol says Bud is too small, he's light in the ass, he's going to break him, gonna dominate, etc. This tells me Errol isn't seeing things realistically. It tells me he'll be surprised how strong Bud is, how hard he punches, how durable he is. Errol ass is getting dropped like a bad habit in this fightOregonian likes this.
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Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post
I hope you can help them find all the pieces after he breaks Crawford.mathed likes this.
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Originally posted by JLC View Post
Respect to what you’re saying. Idk if the Porter versions were so different. I mean, I get it. Every fight a guy leaves a bit in the ring and all. But come on. Not like Porter got the brakes beat off of him or lost a step. After he got a split decision loss vs Spence and boxed a shutout against Formella he went straight to Bud. That’s not many miles, and he didn’t look bad at all vs Crawford. Just not as talented.
They both fought compromised versions of Kell. I agree for sure that Spence fought a MUCH BETTER version, but even that one was fresh off of a massive beat down by GGG where he got his face broken. This was not a top form Brook by any stretch of the imagination. Severely compromised.
Ugas is a trash fighter. I won’t prop up his last minute late replacement win over an old pacquiao any more than I’m going to prop up Jeff Horn’s win over Manny. Ugas has taken many L’s against questionable opposition. He is not some great fighter by any means. To me he’s not even good. He lucked up on a title the same as Horn.
Spence has been at WW his entire career. This is Bud’s third division. I think Spence has the slightly better 147 resume, but taking Bud’s resume at 135/140 into consideration I think they are neck and neck.
again, Porter is BOTH their best wins.Oregonian likes this.
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Originally posted by BlackRobb View Post
You forget the fact that not many guys are willing to face Crawford. I have to point something out too. Did you notice how Mikey Garcia and everyone else came out of hiding at 135 once Bud left the division? Did you notice how Taylor and Prograis came out of the shadows at 140 once Bud moved up to 147? Prior to Crawford leaving jr. welterweight, no one had heard a thing about Taylor or Prograis. That says a lot.
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Originally posted by archiemoore1 View Post
I see your point somewhat, but Bud is extremely durable. He gets clipped like any fighter, but he comes back and knocks the other person out. He can give it and take it. U have to remember that Bud lives the life of a fighter all the time, training even when there's no fight on the horizon. He stays in shape. That alone makes u much more durable than other fighters. Errol does train hard and is always in great shape for his fights, but he has also spent a lot of time drinking and abusing his body. And the accident has taken a toll whether it's noticeable or not. His face hit the pavement and he was knocked out cold and lost 2 weeks worth of memory. Those nerves have been hurt and that bell has been rung in a major way. A knockout is a knockout, whether in the ring or on the pavement. It just takes the right punch in the right spot to bring some of that previous damage to the surface. So for those reasons, in a long tough fight, I have to go with the guy who never let his body, his brain and his organs down with alcohol
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Originally posted by BlackRobb View Post
You're making a mistake. A big one. Crawford is not a stationary body bag like Ugas. Earl and all of his misguided fans will find out on July 29th that there are levels in this sport. I just hope the ambulance driving Spence to the hospital in Vegas doesn't crash. He might have bad flashbacks.
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Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post
As much as you discredit Ugas, and stated that Porter had not lost a step before Crawford, Ugas actually beat Porter before Shawn fought Crawford, and was robbed on the scorecards in most people's opinion, and Ugas beat Crawford in the amateurs. Unlike Horn's decision over Pacquiao, Ugas put a beating on Manny, so much so that his wife was crying in the audience and he retired after. So, Ugas is much better than you are giving him credit for.
I don’t think it’s fair to talk about the Porter versions as if they were vastly different. That’s just not true. He lost a SPLIT decision to Spence. Pitched a shutout in his next fight, and then went straight into Bud.
Ugas beat Bud in the amateurs. Hooray. Then he turned pro and lost to two pedestrian guys and Amir Imam.
Ugas is better than Jeff horn. Cool. Lol. Def doesn’t make him good. He won his title against an ATG at the end of his career as a late replacement opponent. I think both of them are C level guys.
Again: Shawn Porter is BOTH of their best wins. he didn’t come into the fight with his face already broken in half or 5 years removed from his best days. He had a couple of nice NAME wins and competitive losses against guys when they were at or close to the top of their game. Porter is no ATG either. And if he’s both their best win then they have pretty similar resumes. Neck and neck. I don’t wanna split hairs here. If someone feels Spence has a SLIGHTLY better resume then cool. But if someone says “Crawford hasn’t fought anybody “ they need to put the word “either” at the end of that statement. Lol
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Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post
And if Crawford can't deter Spence with his power, then he will incur a beating never seen before. We KNOW that Errol can hurt Bud, but we don't know if Crawford can hurt Spence. When Bud gets hit clean, his instinct is to get his lick back, but with the volume of punches and heavy selection of shots that Errol throws, Bud will be putting himself in serious danger fighting that way.
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