Dirrell's speed vs Froch's speed

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  • Mugwump
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    #11
    Froch is not as ponderous as some here suggest. When he throws first he can be as slow as a bus, but his counters are deceptively fast.

    This fight will be similar to the Taylor one in that the result rests on whether Dirrell can keep Froch off of him for the 12. That means quality hitting - not quantity hitting, or he'll gas the same way JT did.

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    • krazyn8tive
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      #12
      Originally posted by Mugwump
      Froch is not as ponderous as some here suggest. When he throws first he can be as slow as a bus, but his counters are deceptively fast.

      This fight will be similar to the Taylor one in that the result rests on whether Dirrell can keep Froch off of him for the 12. That means quality hitting - not quantity hitting, or he'll gas the same way JT did.
      Very well said.

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      • javelin_fangs
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        #13
        Originally posted by krazyn8tive
        Where is this notion that Dirrells hand speed and skill is that much greater than Froch's? I have seen televised fights from the both of them and many different sports websites boxing writers, especially the four lettered network, keep on shoving down our throats that Froch is in trouble because Dirrell is SO much faster than Froch. I could't see much of a difference if there is one. Froch has faced the tougher competition and gone more total rounds and has the experience and power. Dirrell may be a bit more slick than Froch but that's like saying a tank is more agile than a bulldozer. Comment and discuss
        Dirrell is more versatile in that he's ambidextrous in the ring. Froch looks and fights strong and definitely has more experience. BUT you questioned the speed advantage. I really don't know what to say. Dirrell might have the fastest hands in boxing. He's Roy Jones fast. If you can't see that then you're just not trying to see it. Froch should be and is a favorite, but that speed that Dirrell has can make him competitive and possibly help him win.

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          #14
          Originally posted by javelin_fangs
          Dirrell is more versatile in that he's ambidextrous in the ring. Froch looks and fights strong and definitely has more experience. BUT you questioned the speed advantage. I really don't know what to say. Dirrell might have the fastest hands in boxing. He's Roy Jones fast. If you can't see that then you're just not trying to see it. Froch should be and is a favorite, but that speed that Dirrell has can make him competitive and possibly help him win.
          To me Zab Judah had the fastest hands I've ever seen. Andre Berto has ridiculous speed. Roy Jones in his prime was also very fast. I would compare Dirrell's to Chad Dawson. I wouldn't say roy jones prime fast

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          • Freddy Krueger
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            #15
            Originally posted by krazyn8tive
            To me Zab Judah had the fastest hands I've ever seen. Andre Berto has ridiculous speed. Roy Jones in his prime was also very fast. I would compare Dirrell's to Chad Dawson. I wouldn't say roy jones prime fast
            He doesn't have any power behind his shots though.

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              #16
              Originally posted by CastorTroy
              He doesn't have any power behind his shots though.
              I have to disagree with this entirely. It wasn't his power that led to his downfall, it was his heart and head. Everybody he fought said he had crazy power for his size and speed. He has no heart though

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              • Ryn0
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                #17
                Dirrel is a hell of alot faster than Froch but he tends to stay in range of being hit which is his problem. He can use his legs better than Froch but he often doesn't use them, he hits you and covers up standing in range.

                He has enough handspeed and footspeed to get in let the fists fly and get out without being hit ala prime RJJ but he choses not to.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Mugwump
                  Froch is not as ponderous as some here suggest. When he throws first he can be as slow as a bus, but his counters are deceptively fast.
                  nah he's is just plain slow.

                  This fight will be similar to the Taylor one in that the result rests on whether Dirrell can keep Froch off of him for the 12. That means quality hitting - not quantity hitting, or he'll gas the same way JT did.
                  JT gases and froch just kept chugging along... that's the reason why froch won. if froch pressures and dirrel gases the result will be similar.

                  regardless, froch doesn't have the speed advantage over anyone. dirrel isn't roy jones fast either, but he might as well be compared to froch.

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                  • mojack
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                    #19
                    1. Dirrell is too green
                    2. Dirrell has never faught any quality opponents
                    3. Froch is slower but hit's harder
                    4. Froch will take Dirrell into the trenches
                    5. Dirrell is on foreign soil
                    6. Froch will start quicker then he did with Taylor

                    Remindsme of amir Khan,oh he's too fast, speed kills, then as soon as he get's in the ring with a hitter he gets KTFO.

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                    • Mugwump
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      JT gases and froch just kept chugging along... that's the reason why froch won. if froch pressures and dirrel gases the result will be similar.
                      Taylor gassed because he was fighting a bigger, harder hitting man and needed to throw more leather in order to hold him off. If he hadn't Froch would have KOd him before the tenth.

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