Teofimo is the best of the 4 kings

[ShoulderRoll]

He was too scared to fight Haney and lost to Sandor Martin. Credit for Loma and Taylor. But Lets chill calling him a king.

Who has better wins on their resume?

[The Big Dunn]

Who has better wins on their resume?

Haney beat Loma and beat Kambosos the guy that beat Teo.

Teo gets full credit for Taylor and Loma no doubt. You cant just pretend he didnt lose.

[alexnation]

There are no 4 kings in this era. Only 4 ducks and twitter fighters

[ShoulderRoll]

Haney beat Loma and beat Kambosos the guy that beat Teo.

Teo gets full credit for Taylor and Loma no doubt. You cant just pretend he didnt lose.

Clearly beating the consensus best guy, at two separate weights, gives him the best resume of any of them at the moment. That can’t be argued.

Devin didn’t clearly beat Lomachenko in many eyes so that is going to follow him around.

It would be nice if they settled who is the best by actually fighting each other. But until then you have to go by the resumes.

[BoZz]

That's fan boy bandwagon mentality right there homie, his best win is against an over hyped amateur in bumachenko..Josh Taylor another European who's made a name for himself by fighting c level opposition, and now because teo beat him it means he's some "top dog"?! I like Teo but don't forget, the same guy lost to some one dimensional Greek from Australia.

[ShoulderRoll]

That's fan boy bandwagon mentality right there homie, his best win is against an over hyped amateur in bumachenko..Josh Taylor another European who's made a name for himself by fighting c level opposition, and now because teo beat him it means he's some "top dog"?! I like Teo but don't forget, the same guy lost to some one dimensional Greek from Australia.

So who of the Four Kings has better wins than that?

[The Big Dunn]

Clearly beating the consensus best guy, at two separate weights, gives him the best resume of any of them at the moment. That can’t be argued.

Devin didn’t clearly beat Lomachenko in many eyes so that is going to follow him around.

It would be nice if they settled who is the best by actually fighting each other. But until then you have to go by the resumes.

Are we going by actual wins and losses or perceived wins and losses?

If we go actual wins and losses- its Haney.

If we go perceived wins and losses -its still Haney. i will explain why.

Taylor wasnt the best guy at 140 anymore. If you go with Haney didnt clearly beat Loma, Taylor didnt beat Catterall and Teo didnt beat Sandor Martin.

That means the best wins are Teo beating Loma and Haney beating Kambosos that beat Teo.

That also means Haney had the *best* loss because Loma is significantly better than Martin or Catterall.

True you should go with who fought whom. That means youre giving Teo the benefit if the doubt for not fighting Haney at LW.

The other day his dad said Teo needs $20 mil to fight Haney- which is absurd and pretty much tells you they arent serious about fighting Devin.

[BoZz]

So who of the Four Kings has better wins than that?

I wouldn't even bother about teo or ryan, a fight between haney and the tank would determine who deserves the number 1 spot, a fight between garcia and teo would determine who'd be the #3. The TS thinks bumachenko beat Haney, we can all wish but bumachenko lost clearly, people already decided before the fight, if haney doesn't knock bumachenko out he will be the winner no matter what, just look at his face post fight...does that look like a face of a winner? But yea, like I said I like Teo but no way would he beat either tank nor haney.

[BoZz]

So who of the Four Kings has better wins than that?

But I forgot to mention, since Kambosos destroyed Teo, according to the TS theory...kombosos should be number 1.

[The Big Dunn]

But I forgot to mention, since Kambosos destroyed Teo, according to the TS theory...kombosos should be number 1.

Teo was #1 after he beat Loma. Kambosos was #1 after he beat Teo. Haney is #1 since he beat Kambosos and Loma.