Comments Thread For: Fury's Promoter: Joshua's Preferred Route is Wilder in December, If He Loses Our Fight Will Never Happen

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Do you think? from all the chat he gives off about bodybuilding?

Fury calls him a bodybuilder because he's insecure about his own body. He even said in an interview he wishes he had a body like it but he's not built that way. It's playground stuff from Fury. He just wants to make AJ insecure about his own body by projecting. He also wants his minions to grate on him by also calling him it.

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Obviously Fury and Usyk are 1 and 2 by general consensus


i dunno, i think there's a possibility this time, if the Saudi money is there.

Wilder is about 38 now? As dumb as he is, he must know this mega payday isn't gonna come from anywhere else. Fury already smashed him, so that's not in the pipeline. There's Usyk but that's not as big

Now Wilder surely only has a short window of opportunity for this kind of fight and money now, I think there's a lot more incentive than before.

Plus AJ is timid now and can't take a shot from Wilder, so Wilder knows just catching him once and AJ will be out cold on the floor.

That is not what you said before. You said Wilder was the second best. Now it's the "Consensus" 1 and 2 with Fury and Usyk. Quite sad to see from an adult. It's usually the Americans with this type of stuff. You must really despise AJ for you to come out with this kind of thing constantly.

Wilder will decide whether he has enough money or not to walk away with. He doesn't want to be KO'd again. His raging narcissism can't take it. If he feels he has enough money, he'll run away like he did time and time again in the past.

Yeah, Wilder just hits everyone once and that's it. Of course he does. If you think that, then you're clearly not watching his fights. It couldn't be further from the truth.

AJ has the greater ability to get his shots off than Wilder does. With his glass jaw, it won't take much. AJ has taken big shots from world class fighters and come through. Wilder hasn't taken big shots from any world class fighter though and still won. No, he's taken the light hits from a world class fighter in Fury and been smashed. But not big shots. Fury isn't close to being a puncher.

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That is not what you said before. You said Wilder was the second best. Now it's the "Consensus" 1 and 2 with Fury and Usyk. Quite sad to see from an adult. It's usually the Americans with this type of stuff. You must really despise AJ for you to come out with this kind of thing constantly.

Wilder will decide whether he has enough money or not to walk away with. He doesn't want to be KO'd again. His raging narcissism can't take it. If he feels he has enough money, he'll run away like he did time and time again in the past.

Yeah, Wilder just hits everyone once and that's it. Of course he does. If you think that, then you're clearly not watching his fights. It couldn't be further from the truth.

AJ has the greater ability to get his shots off than Wilder does. With his glass jaw, it won't take much. AJ has taken big shots from world class fighters and come through. Wilder hasn't taken big shots from any world class fighter though and still won. No, he's taken the light hits from a world class fighter in Fury and been smashed. But not big shots. Fury isn't close to being a puncher.

As I said, general consensus as of NOW

i used to have Wilder above AJ in terms of who I think would win, so i had Fury and Wilder as 1 and 2 around 2020-2021. This was when Fury whooped Wilder in the past and Usyk had yet to establish himself at heavyweight, he had only fought Witherspoon at the time of Fury v Wilder 2.

So yeah, obviously at that time, I had Fury and Wilder at number 1 and 2 in the division because I didn't think AJ could beat either, and still don't.

Usyk since proved himself beating AJ twice, just like I said he would, and Wilder got knocked out in back to back fights, so as it stands in 2023, I'd say it would be fair to put Fury and Usyk as 1 and 2.

Wilder and AJ can battle it out for 3 and 4. Who knows what either has left but if AJ gets caught, he's going to sleep.

and your boy AJ has just ducked Fury again, not even hiding it this time.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Joshua will beat Wilder really bad. It will be Fury -Wilder 2 level beating.

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Tyson Fury has overrated his drawing power, facts are? If he was this Elvis Presley or Michael Jackson type boxing superstar, Fury would of fought back on April 29th at Wembley against a opponent of his choice 'That never happened'.

There may be some hardcore Fury fans who, kind of think this news of Joshua wanting to fight Wilder 'Is making Fury look good'.

But what is really happening is? Tyson Fury has made tactical mistake in his career regarding Joshua & Usyk 'And now he is clamouring to make those fights'.

Fury should of fought Joshua last December, and he should of fought Usyk earlier this year on April 29th.

The longer Tyson Fury takes to fight both Joshua & Usyk, the more the likely-hood of him winning decreases 'And the likely-hood of Joshua & Usyk winning increases'.

This is because through observable evidence, you can see from a mile off that Fury's traits as a athlete 'Are not conducive for longevity'.

Where as Joshua & Usyk have more beneficial traits which endorse and bolster their longevity in the sport i.e Joshua has a near psychopathic work ethic, is obsessively analytical and sequential with how he approaches the sport and training 'Usyk shares some similar traits'.

The competition between Fury, Usyk, Wilder and Joshua. Is a competition of who is going to be the last man standing 'There is now a extreme emphasis on the long game of these fighters, and how well each fighter refines, maintains or improves over the long term'.

This competition has developed because Tyson Fury basically backed out of two fights with Usyk, and completely and utterly sabotaged the Joshua fight last December.

Tyson Fury should of already fought both Usyk and Joshua and potentially beaten them. But instead he has signed up, to a boxing competition to decide who from his era will be the last man standing.

Tyson Fury is a fighter who can retire at the drop of a hat 'I am saying these things because I have observed the man'.

I watched Tyson Fury live on ESPN during the build up to Wilder vs Fury II 'Announce to the World that he had stop drinking diet cokes'.

Fury stood there as if it was a big achievement, and deserved a pat on the back 'And this is the guy you are all backing to be the last man standing from this era. I would not be so sure'.

Note: As David Price recently stated, boxing is about who you fight, when you fight them or sometimes WHO you don't fight. And myself personally, I think Tyson Fury has made a tactical mistake in his career of not already fighting both Usyk & Joshua 'The timing of those fights back last December for Joshua, and April this year for Usyk would of been great for Fury'.

It would of been great because Fury was attempting to take advantage of Joshua then perceive vulnerability, after his lost to Usyk II 'And of course the Usyk fight was a fight being made a short notice, but I believe that was Fury's tactic to give himself a edge' etc.

You make some good points in your post
But
Geeeze it's a lot to read bro maybe You should write articles for Boxing Scene

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As I said, general consensus as of NOW

i used to have Wilder above AJ in terms of who I think would win, so i had Fury and Wilder as 1 and 2 around 2020-2021. This was when Fury whooped Wilder in the past and Usyk had yet to establish himself at heavyweight, he had only fought Witherspoon at the time of Fury v Wilder 2.

So yeah, obviously at that time, I had Fury and Wilder at number 1 and 2 in the division because I didn't think AJ could beat either, and still don't.

Usyk since proved himself beating AJ twice, just like I said he would, and Wilder got knocked out in back to back fights, so as it stands in 2023, I'd say it would be fair to put Fury and Usyk as 1 and 2.

Wilder and AJ can battle it out for 3 and 4. Who knows what either has left but if AJ gets caught, he's going to sleep.

and your boy AJ has just ducked Fury again, not even hiding it this time.

You've been calling Wilder the second best until you found out Wilder may actually go through with getting knocked out by AJ after running for years. Don't even try to lie about it. We both know you did. You're just scared about the thought of AJ winning so you've got to discrediting him for the win early.

List all the fighters Wilder beat with just one shot?

Yeah, AJ who was already scheduled to fight Wilder has Fury the donkey using his name again because he's on the outside looking in like a wally brain and making a fool of himself. To delude yourself that AJ is "Ducking him" is nothing more than the thoughts of a child or someone who is beyond simple so can't articulate anything other than simpleton shlt. Seriously, to be this much of a fanatic is f3cking sad to see. You're in a cult of humiliation. You embarrass yourself so naturally.

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You've been calling Wilder the second best until you found out Wilder may actually go through with getting knocked out by AJ after running for years. Don't even try to lie about it. We both know you did. You're just scared about the thought of AJ winning so you've got to discrediting him for the win early.

List all the fighters Wilder beat with just one shot?

Yeah, AJ who was already scheduled to fight Wilder has Fury the donkey using his name again because he's on the outside looking in like a wally brain and making a fool of himself. To delude yourself that AJ is "Ducking him" is nothing more than the thoughts of a child or someone who is beyond simple so can't articulate anything other than simpleton shlt. Seriously, to be this much of a fanatic is f3cking sad to see. You're in a cult of humiliation. You embarrass yourself so naturally.

Wilder was number 2, Usyk is now as it stands.

Wilder could beat Usyk, not out of the question, Usyk isn't standing up to his punches like AJ won't

you're dumb though, why would I have rated Usyk above Wilder when he had only fought Witherspoon? I go on proof.

Around 2020-2021, i had Fury, Wilder and AJ at 1,2,3. Usyk had done nothing at HW then

Fury was the only one who had beaten one of other two in the top 3, so he was 1. Then Wilder was 2 because he would whoop AJ.

Usyk come into the division and beat one of the top 3 at the time, like Fury had, so they go 1 and 2. Wilder slips down to 3 because he hasnt, like AJ hasn't, but Wilder would've and will send AJ to sleep.

You should listen to me, I told you AJ had no chance of beating Usyk and i will be right again.


AJ ducked Fury a few days ago, got offered good terms and turned it down to fight Whyte.

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Wilder was number 2, Usyk is now as it stands.

Wilder could beat Usyk, not out of the question, Usyk isn't standing up to his punches like AJ won't

you're dumb though, why would I have rated Usyk above Wilder when he had only fought Witherspoon? I go on proof.

Around 2020-2021, i had Fury, Wilder and AJ at 1,2,3. Usyk had done nothing at HW then

Fury was the only one who had beaten one of other two in the top 3, so he was 1. Then Wilder was 2 because he would whoop AJ.

Usyk come into the division and beat one of the top 3 at the time, like Fury had, so they go 1 and 2. Wilder slips down to 3 because he hasnt, like AJ hasn't, but Wilder would've and will send AJ to sleep.

You should listen to me, I told you AJ had no chance of beating Usyk and i will be right again.


AJ ducked Fury a few days ago, got offered good terms and turned it down to fight Whyte.

You're calling me dumb when i clearly pointed out you had Wilder as the second best until recently and not years ago?

AJ was always having a warmup before taking Wilder on in December. Pretend and delude yourself otherwise all you want. Fury has had many opportunities to fight AJ and ran from each and every one of them. Let fatty play his games that no one normal is buying. Only a few of the leaches left who do. And as pointed out, they have no self-respect. They're just there to laugh at.

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Wilder was number 2, Usyk is now as it stands.

Wilder could beat Usyk, not out of the question, Usyk isn't standing up to his punches like AJ won't

you're dumb though, why would I have rated Usyk above Wilder when he had only fought Witherspoon? I go on proof.

Around 2020-2021, i had Fury, Wilder and AJ at 1,2,3. Usyk had done nothing at HW then

Fury was the only one who had beaten one of other two in the top 3, so he was 1. Then Wilder was 2 because he would whoop AJ.

Usyk come into the division and beat one of the top 3 at the time, like Fury had, so they go 1 and 2. Wilder slips down to 3 because he hasnt, like AJ hasn't, but Wilder would've and will send AJ to sleep.

You should listen to me, I told you AJ had no chance of beating Usyk and i will be right again.


AJ ducked Fury a few days ago, got offered good terms and turned it down to fight Whyte.

"I go on proof....."
But you put Wilder over AJ because you think.he would "Whoop AJ"
That's not proof that's your opinion
You contradict your own points
Lololololol
Btw
Previously You always had Wilder ranked higher than AJ sooo Which Heavy Weights did Wilder beat to put him #2
I'll wait

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"I go on proof....."
But you put Wilder over AJ because you think.he would "Whoop AJ"
That's not proof that's your opinion
You contradict your own points
Lololololol
Btw
Previously You always had Wilder ranked higher than AJ sooo Which Heavy Weights did Wilder beat to put him #2
I'll wait

I said I'm going on proof to put Fury and Usyk as top because they're ones that have beaten a consensus top 3 fighter in recent times.

If we're making fantasy lists of top 5 or 10 or whatever, then there's always gonna be some opinion cos not everyone fights everyone.

Until Usyk made a splash at heavyweight beating AJ, there was 3 fighters that were widely considered top 3. But Wilder hadn't been slapped around the ring by Andy Ruiz lol, so I wasn't willing to put AJ above Wilder at that point