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  • Johnny2x2x
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    #41
    Body work will decide this fight. Spence, when he’s right, is a phenomenal body puncher. Crawford is an underrated body puncher. Who lands the most good shots to the body the first half of the fight will decide who wins this.

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    • SweetPbfAli
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      #42
      Originally posted by Noelanthony

      Above Average for sure. Kell brook is a big puncher and hit him flush in the face several times and was never wobbled. He most recently had a fight , I can’t remember who it was and he stopped to look at the referee and was hit cleanly in the face. The punches you don’t see usually do the damage but he absorbed that without any trouble. Crawford I would say as a average chin. Wasn’t he dropped 2 fights ago where his glove touched the canvas?
      Yeah, it was a KD that wasn't ruled for sure. Spence was hurt by Ugas but it seemed most people missed it. It happened in the sequence before the mouthpiece came out. Honestly, it's part of the reason the mouthpiece came out. Ugas landed a right and Spence took a funny step back but it was glossed over.

      I say that to say I'm not sure who's chin I trust more. I think Bud punches harder with one shot while Spence is through accumulation. The puncher is whoever can take the other's best shot as Bread likes to say

      We will see.

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        #43
        Originally posted by SweetPbfAli

        Yeah, it was a KD that wasn't ruled for sure. Spence was hurt by Ugas but it seemed most people missed it. It happened in the sequence before the mouthpiece came out. Honestly, it's part of the reason the mouthpiece came out. Ugas landed a right and Spence took a funny step back but it was glossed over.

        I say that to say I'm not sure who's chin I trust more. I think Bud punches harder with one shot while Spence is through accumulation. The puncher is whoever can take the other's best shot as Bread likes to say

        We will see.
        He was hurt by a punch he didn't see from Ugas, a free shot like that amplifies its power, look at Floyd free shoting Ortiz wasn't a hard shot from ma non puncher and put him out.

        People apply too much emphasis on a Ugas free shot, in battle, the same shot wouldn't phase him.

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        • Joe Beamish
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          #44
          Nobody (who’s not a heavyweight) is in his prime at age 35. Crawford is old. Maybe Spence is old too, but 35 is usually the turning point.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Roadblock

            He was hurt by a punch he didn't see from Ugas, a free shot like that amplifies its power, look at Floyd free shoting Ortiz wasn't a hard shot from ma non puncher and put him out.

            People apply too much emphasis on a Ugas free shot, in battle, the same shot wouldn't phase him.
            I'm not talking about that shot though. It happened in the previous sequence. I would never put emphasis on the free shot. That's expected.

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            • Roadblock
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              #46
              Originally posted by SweetPbfAli

              I'm not talking about that shot though. It happened in the previous sequence. I would never put emphasis on the free shot. That's expected.
              Ah ok my bad, I will go and have a look.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Joe Beamish
                Nobody (who’s not a heavyweight) is in his prime at age 35. Crawford is old. Maybe Spence is old too, but 35 is usually the turning point.
                Not so much these days with the conditioning they do, its the tail end but he is still in his prime, both these guys look better now than 3 yrs ago, they have the same ability only now they have seasoned into elite killers in the biggest fight of their careers, its for all the marbles, everything, belts legacy and manhood, this fight has it all.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by b morph

                  I see this almost how you see it.

                  I think Spence has the better fundamentals, whereas Crawford is more athletic and can do different things and give different looks.

                  I slightly favor Crawford because of his meanness and his ability to get boxers out of there when he has them hurt. But Crawford has to be on his A game because Spence is by far the best boxer Crawford will have ever faced and I agree with you, Spence has a more proven resume with who’s he’s faced.

                  Spence’s inactivity had to factor in as well.
                  Yes Crawford is in his demeanor spiteful, overtly he is very competitive.

                  Has a certain spitefulness, that does show up in fights.

                  Spence Junior is the best fighter Crawford has faced. Crawford skill for skill is the best fighter Spence Junior has ever faced.

                  But? Is Crawford the best 147 pound fighter, Spence Junior has faced by a long distance? Spence Junior may has competed against bigger punchers, and fighters with more brute strength.

                  If the Kell Brook who Spence Junior fought, was inside the ring with Crawford 'That Brook does not get stopped so easily, it would be a closer fight'.

                  At 147 pounds Spence Junior is just more proven and tested, even after his accident 'That Danny Garcia win is underrated considering he just jumped back straight into that fight, Garcia has World level power'.

                  Note: Because of Crawford's creativity offensively, there may be a point in the fight where he is wacked with a punch he is not braced for 100% 'And think it is this moment of the fight, were Spence Junior needs to overcome and prove his greatness. Crawford in order to win, is going to have to overcome possibly being out jabbed and ****** up consistently in a crude but effective manner etc.

                  Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 05-29-2023, 07:04 AM.

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                  • SplitSecond
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                    #49
                    Spence is like Amir Khan with defense.

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                    • b Murphington
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                      Yes Crawford is in his demeanor spiteful, overtly he is very competitive.

                      Has a certain spitefulness, that does show up in fights.

                      Spence Junior is the best fighter Crawford has faced. Crawford skill for skill is the best fighter Spence Junior has ever faced.

                      But? Is Crawford the best 147 pound fighter, Spence Junior has faced by a long distance? Spence Junior may has competed against bigger punchers, and fighters with more brute strength.

                      If the Kell Brook who Spence Junior fought, was inside the ring with Crawford 'That Brook does not get stopped so easily, it would be a closer fight'.

                      At 147 pounds Spence Junior is just more proven and tested, even after his accident 'That Danny Garcia win is underrated considering he just jumped back straight into that fight, Garcia has World level power'.

                      Note: Because of Crawford's creativity offensively, there may be a point in the fight where he is wacked with a punch he is not braced for 100% 'And think it is this moment of the fight, were Spence Junior needs to overcome and prove his greatness. Crawford in order to win, is going to have to overcome possibly being out jabbed and ****** up consistently in a crude but effective manner etc.
                      Great points.

                      I think it’s one of the best matchups in modern welterweight history. It should’ve happened several years ago though. Just glad we’ll actually see it, barring any freak accidents or mishaps from now until the opening bell.

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