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  • garfios
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    #1

    Andy Cruz debut

    Andy Cruz (0-0) vs jc burgos (37-7-3) 21ko, never been ko. 07/15/2023
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    #2
    Originally posted by garfios
    Andy Cruz (0-0) vs jc burgos (37-7-3) 21ko, never been ko. 07/15/2023
    I guess Hearn doesn't realize the difference between amtuer and pros Ppl fail to realize Andy Cruz fought titere Vasquez in an exhibition and looked horrible against a washed up vet.

    https://********/tug1w0_enHA
    Last edited by Regge; 05-20-2023, 08:32 PM.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Regge

      I guess Hearn doesn't realize the difference between amtuer and pros Ppl fail to realize Andy Cruz fought titere Vasquez in an exhibition and looked horrible against a washed up vet.

      https://********/tug1w0_enHA
      Welp, we shall soon see.

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        #4
        It will be great for boxing if Andy becomes a top contender, but man he has tough nut to crack immediately after his debut, none had stopped Burgos, he also had a draw with Angel Fierro just recently.

        Andy and his team likely pushed for this fight, so he likely ready but Vasily and Robeisy had faced upsets that early on aswell by pushing to fight vets too early on.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Regge

          I guess Hearn doesn't realize the difference between amtuer and pros Ppl fail to realize Andy Cruz fought titere Vasquez in an exhibition and looked horrible against a washed up vet.

          https://********/tug1w0_enHA
          We should see. This is the same guy that in 7 or 8 fights from now, if he wins. You would be saying who he has fought that he's fighting for a belt. All the haters conveniently would forget that in his first fight, he fought a boxer with 47 professionals fights, 37 wins and 21ko. In any case nobody can say he's fighting a cab driver. Even Morell fought a guy with a loosing record in his first fight.

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            #6
            Straight into Burgos? Damn that's bold! I love it

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              #7
              Originally posted by Feroz
              It will be great for boxing if Andy becomes a top contender, but man he has tough nut to crack immediately after his debut, none had stopped Burgos, he also had a draw with Angel Fierro just recently.

              Andy and his team likely pushed for this fight, so he likely ready but Vasily and Robeisy had faced upsets that early on aswell by pushing to fight vets too early on.
              By now, what does he needs to learn? About himself, that he needs to learn, just like Robeisy and Lomachenko. The same people hoping for Cruz to fail, will be the first, if he is triumphing, clamoring that he doesn't deserve a shot at the belt because he only has 5 or whatever fights he have at the time.

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                #8
                Originally posted by garfios
                By now, what does he needs to learn? About himself, that he needs to learn, just like Robeisy and Lomachenko. The same people hoping for Cruz to fail, will be the first, if he is triumphing, clamoring that he doesn't deserve a shot at the belt because he only has 5 or whatever fights he have at the time.
                I'll repeat pros and amtuers are different animals. I like Andy I was rooting for him when he took gold in 2016 but the pro games is different no pitty pat stuff.

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                  #9
                  are they crazy?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by garfios
                    By now, what does he needs to learn? About himself, that he needs to learn, just like Robeisy and Lomachenko. The same people hoping for Cruz to fail, will be the first, if he is triumphing, clamoring that he doesn't deserve a shot at the belt because he only has 5 or whatever fights he have at the time.
                    At a technical level, he is fundamentally much better compared to other fighters who are just debuting, but he does need to make a few tweaks in his style to translate his amateur experience onto what will be his professional career. How long it takes I wouldn't know, it varies from boxer to boxer.

                    It depend on the level of competition he faces in just five fights but even then 135 is very stacked. I don't think anyone deserves to skip the line due to background credentials.

                    Nonetheless, I think Andy should get a lot of credit taking on a durable vet immediately after debuting, if he wins in any fashion it just shows his potential at the top level.
                    Last edited by Malvado; 05-21-2023, 12:35 AM.

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