Would olympic sprinters naturally be explosive boxers ?

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  • CubanGuyNYC
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    #21
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
    All good athletes will have the raw components, that are transferable to most sports.

    David Haye, Joe Calzaghe, Carl Froch, Anthony Joshua. These are three fighters that I know for a fact are great athletes 'Haye was a big proponent of using sprinting workouts during his training camps, and so was Carl Froch'. And Joe Calzaghe seemed to be very gifted as a Middle to Long Distance athlete 'So as you can see, the raw athletic components are transferable to boxing'.

    But people must understand? Fighting IS a skill of its own, and I believe just like athleticism? It is actually an innate skill.
    I recall a similar topic being raised a number of years ago. I argued against a former active member of this site that although great athleticism is an obvious advantage in becoming a successful boxer, one did not have to be a good athlete outside the ring to be a great fighter. There are qualities to being a successful fighter that aren’t shared by most athletes of other disciplines. One important example: While punch-resistance can be increased through conditioning and training, a true iron chin is God-given. And, as Mike Tyson has expressed (quoting Cus D’Amato), the same can be said for punching power.

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    • PRINCEKOOL
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      #22
      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC

      I recall a similar topic being raised a number of years ago. I argued against a former active member of this site that although great athleticism is an obvious advantage in becoming a successful boxer, one did not have to be a good athlete outside the ring to be a great fighter. There are qualities to being a successful fighter that aren’t shared by most athletes of other disciplines. One important example: While punch-resistance can be increased through conditioning and training, a true iron chin is God-given. And, as Mike Tyson has expressed (quoting Cus D’Amato), the same can be said for punching power.
      Running, Jumping, Throwing, Fighting.

      I believe these are innate skills. Reasoning being? They help use survive in nature.

      The fundamental Athletic skills, help bolster and support fighting abilities 'Because they are transferable skills, which are used during fighting in some form'.

      But as you have pointed out and what I have been highlighting. Is that being able to punch, or have a certain amount of durability 'And a level of aggression'.

      I think these attributes are innate. People have innate skills, and then throughout life they build upon those skills.

      Mike Tyson was not manufactured or made into a fighter 'He was always a fighter'.

      I have read about David Haye's training, and judging by his track workouts 'He was and is quite talented in this area'.

      Haye has even stated that if he was not a boxer, he would of fancied himself as a 100m sprinter.

      Calzaghe's training was predominately old school, plenty of roadwork in the welsh valley's 'Serious running'.

      Note: Being a great athlete or having very strong fundamental athletic skills. Will help a fighter excel in boxing or any sport at a lower to middle level 'Much more efficiently than a individual who is not as strong in those athletic area's'. But then there is a level in all sports, where as a competitor you start coming into contact with innately gifted athletes. It is at this level where in boxing, the innately more gifted fighter 'May at times negate their opponents, greater athletic attributes'.

      Deontay Wilder is a interesting case, because he is a great athlete 'And he does also have some innate fighting abilities, which are off the charts. But he also lacks in other innate fighting area's'.

      Wilder's power, gameness, and near psychopathic aggression are all innate abilities.







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        #23
        In short, No.

        Sprinting has nothing to do with throwing punches.

        Now which olympic sport I think would make reasonable boxers other than obviously boxers?

        Shot put, discus, and javelin throwers.

        Their movements are range in exaggeration but all generally "punching" like motions.

        Some of these shot put throwers probably have legitimate world class knockout power.

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          #24
          Originally posted by HeadShots
          they usually have small heads tho. they are built like cheetahs for speed. Amir Khan and Roy Jones were built for speed. small heads. both have glass jaws.


          boxers usually have robust skulls due to the chin being the most important trait.
          I wanna smash Roid's head when I see him. Looks like macro checkpea.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Boxfan83

            No they wouldnt. Lol! Bball players look the most awkward fighting and downright embarassing at times throwing punches.
            Cause they're not trained

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              #26
              well to be a great boxer you need to be both explosive and also have endurance.


              really the biggest help in boxing besides athleticism is starting at an early age. The vast majority of top fighters started VERY young.

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                #27
                Originally posted by WillieWild114

                Besides speed what else would they need strength?
                Stamina?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                  Running, Jumping, Throwing, Fighting.

                  I believe these are innate skills. Reasoning being? They help use survive in nature.

                  The fundamental Athletic skills, help bolster and support fighting abilities 'Because they are transferable skills, which are used during fighting in some form'.

                  But as you have pointed out and what I have been highlighting. Is that being able to punch, or have a certain amount of durability 'And a level of aggression'.

                  I think these attributes are innate. People have innate skills, and then throughout life they build upon those skills.

                  Mike Tyson was not manufactured or made into a fighter 'He was always a fighter'.

                  I have read about David Haye's training, and judging by his track workouts 'He was and is quite talented in this area'.

                  Haye has even stated that if he was not a boxer, he would of fancied himself as a 100m sprinter.

                  Calzaghe's training was predominately old school, plenty of roadwork in the welsh valley's 'Serious running'.

                  Note: Being a great athlete or having very strong fundamental athletic skills. Will help a fighter excel in boxing or any sport at a lower to middle level 'Much more efficiently than a individual who is not as strong in those athletic area's'. But then there is a level in all sports, where as a competitor you start coming into contact with innately gifted athletes. It is at this level where in boxing, the innately more gifted fighter 'May at times negate their opponents, greater athletic attributes'.

                  Deontay Wilder is a interesting case, because he is a great athlete 'And he does also have some innate fighting abilities, which are off the charts. But he also lacks in other innate fighting area's'.

                  Wilder's power, gameness, and near psychopathic aggression are all innate abilities.






                  Yes, being athletic does help you be an athlete, very astute observation.

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                  • BodyBagz
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                    #29
                    Accuracy > speed
                    Ability to take shots that are unavoidable > speed
                    Boxing IQ > speed

                    If ''speed'' is all a guy brings to a fight, he's going to have a short career.

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                      #30
                      I think again bolt, su bingtao, Ben Johnson would be explosive

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