Comments Thread For: Liam Smith: 'I've Done Probably Better Than Any of The Brits [Against Canelo]'

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If Khan had more power, and better durability. He most likely would of beaten Alvarez 10/12-0 'He may have even forced a stoppage'.

Speed, combinations, endurance, movement. Khan at his peak had all of these attributes to his game, on a completely different level to Alvarez.

Mayweather Junior & Bivol both beat Alvarez with Speed, Combinations, Endurance and Movement.

The difference between Khan and those fighters was? Khan did not have their durability.

It is a fact mate, Amir Khan was out boxing Canelo Alaverz 'Alvarez had no acute answer for Khan's ability, all he could do is wait for a mistake'.

Which was a great tactical move, but we all know why he was forced to use such tactics 'Because he could not match Khan's ability etc'.

Note: A legendary knock out? Carl Froch, Joe Calzaghe and many other Middle to Super Middle Weights also would of stopped Amir Khan. Khan took a risk and fought in a weight class were he should not of really been 'Alvarez got the knock-out, but really? That fight showed the boxing world once again the area's of Alvarez's game were he lacked'.

The blue print to beat Alvarez has always been apparent, there has always been a specific style which he has struggled with.

Alvarez is a all-time great fighter, he will do well and beat most styles. But certain attributes have always given him major trouble 'And unlike some other all-time great fighters, I don't think he has overcome this challenge'.

Alvarez did not rematch Mayweather Junior, and he still has not fought Bivol for the second time at 175 pounds.

But I will say this? I am one of the few people, who still believes Alvarez can beat Bivol in their rematch at 175 pounds 'But that is a entirely different topic etc'.

Khan would have needed more power, more durability, AND a better boxing IQ to not get suckered in by a feint.

Basically he would have needed to be a completely different fighter.

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Khan would have needed more power, more durability, AND a better boxing IQ to not get suckered in by a feint.

Basically he would have needed to be a completely different fighter.

Khan would still be timed and whacked, but? Lets also understand, that Alvarez is not a monster puncher.

If Khan had the durability of a Nigel Benn or Eubank Senior at 160 pounds? Khan may be stunned by Alvarez, but he would come through the power and continue to out box Alvarez.

All hypothetical talk, fact of the matter is Alvarez was getting out boxed 'Until Khan made a mistake, and ever so slightly began to fatigue.

It definitely was not a overall super great performance by Alvarez 'But it was good enough'. Great knock-out, but a high level boxing coach would of taken note if how Alvarez was being beaten by Khan etc.

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Khan would still be timed and whacked, but? Lets also understand, that Alvarez is not a monster puncher.

If Khan had the durability of a Nigel Benn or Eubank Senior at 160 pounds? Khan may be stunned by Alvarez, but he would come through the power and continue to out box Alvarez.

All hypothetical talk, fact of the matter is Alvarez was getting out boxed 'Until Khan made a mistake, and ever so slightly began to fatigue.

It definitely was not a overall super great performance by Alvarez 'But it was good enough'. Great knock-out, but a high level boxing coach would of taken note if how Alvarez was being beaten by Khan etc.

If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.

Unfortunately for Khan he had none of the attributes needed to beat Canelo, and pros have to be sharp for more than just 3 or 4 rounds.

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If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.

Unfortunately for Khan he had none of the attributes needed to beat Canelo, and pros have to be sharp for more than just 3 or 4 rounds.

Khan did have attributes to beat Alvarez, that was why he was winning rounds.

If Khan did not have the attributes, he would not of won rounds.

Alvarez timed one punch, apart from that he was being beaten and out boxed etc.

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Khan did have attributes to beat Alvarez, that was why he was winning rounds.

If Khan did not have the attributes, he would not of won rounds.

Alvarez timed one punch, apart from that he was being beaten and out boxed etc.

He had the attributes to be winning on points for a few rounds. While Canelo was battering him to the body and setting up his KO shot with feints.

But like I said, pro boxing isn’t about winning a few rounds on points.

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He had the attributes to be winning on points for a few rounds. While Canelo was battering him to the body and setting up his KO shot with feints.

But like I said, pro boxing isn’t about winning a few rounds on points.

Boxing is about wining fights ultimately.

But you need to acknowledge the fact that, Khan was out boxing Alvarez 'Up until that one timed punched'.

There is no point in denying this aspect of the fight, whether you are a hardcore Alvarez fan 'You need to be honest with Alvarez's performance'.

Because at some point AGAIN, just like when Alvarez fought Mayeather & Bivol.

Alvarez will come face to face with those same attributes that gave him trouble vs Khan.

Those attributes are Speed, Movement, Combinations, Endurance and gears 'And again Alvarez will drop rounds and be out boxed'.

Alvarez did not have enough power to stop Mayweather or Bivol in their tracks with one timed punch 'That is why they won vs Alvarez and why Khan lost'.

Note: I fully well understand that Canelo Alvarez overall is a better fighter than Amir Khan. But what I am highlighting is that Khan DID have specific attributes that troubled Alvarez. That is why fighters win rounds, because they have attributes that can out compete with their opponents ability 'Anyone who watched Khan vs Alvarez would of picked up on this'.

It is up to yourself mate, whether you want to be honest with yourself and acknowledge the area's of Alvarez's game were he lacks 'Or has at-least struggled when forced into these area's during fights etc'.

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Boxing is about wining fights ultimately.

But you need to acknowledge the fact that, Khan was out boxing Alvarez 'Up until that one timed punched'.

There is no point in denying this aspect of the fight, whether you are a hardcore Alvarez fan 'You need to be honest with Alvarez's performance'.

Because at some point AGAIN, just like when Alvarez fought Mayeather & Bivol.

Alvarez will come face to face with those same attributes that gave him trouble vs Khan.

Those attributes are Speed, Movement, Combinations, Endurance and gears 'And again Alvarez will drop rounds and be out boxed'.

Alvarez did not have enough power to stop Mayweather or Bivol in their tracks with one timed punch 'That is why they won vs Alvarez and why Khan lost'.

Note: I fully well understand that Canelo Alvarez overall is a better fighter than Amir Khan. But what I am highlighting is that Khan DID have specific attributes that troubled Alvarez. That is why fighters win rounds, because they have attributes that can out compete with their opponents ability 'Anyone who watched Khan vs Alvarez would of picked up on this'.

It is up to yourself mate, whether you want to be honest with yourself and acknowledge the area's of Alvarez's game were he lacks 'Or has at-least struggled when forced into these area's during fights etc'.

How many times in the history of boxing have fighters been winning a few rounds then lost?

It means nothing to be able to win 3 or 4 rounds. You have to be able to keep that up for 12 rounds without getting knocked out. Easier said then done.

And obviously Khan didn’t have that in him.

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How many times in the history of boxing have fighters been winning a few rounds then lost?

It means nothing to be able to win 3 or 4 rounds. You have to be able to keep that up for 12 rounds without getting knocked out. Easier said then done.

And obviously Khan didn’t have that in him.

Mate, I have proved my point on this thread. And my point was? That Amir Khan had specific attributes which troubled Alvarez 'And that is why he won rounds, THAT is the only way fighters win rounds vs a opponent EVERYONE knows this'.

Ether you can ignore this fact, or be honest with yourself and acknowledge it.

This back fourth or whatever is going on here is done. You are saying absolutely nothing which disproves my points that I have highlighted.

Alvarez won the fight vs Khan. But there were stages, rounds, long periods of time in that fight were? He pretty much had no answer for Khan's speed, movement, and gears 'And that was why he was dropping rounds' This is a historical observable fact.

And it is those attributes that Alvarez has trouble with most stylistically as a fighter 'Speed, Movement, Endurance & Gears'.

I am saying nothing outrages here, because it common knowledge 'And actually a shared understanding that most people in boxing have regarding Canelo Alvarez's abilities'.

Note: I have stated all that really needs to be said on this topic, from my point of view.

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Mate, I have proved my point on this thread. And my point was? That Amir Khan had specific attributes which troubled Alvarez 'And that is why he won rounds, THAT is the only way fighters win rounds vs a opponent EVERYONE knows this'.

Ether you can ignore this fact, or be honest with yourself and acknowledge it.

This back fourth or whatever is going on here is done. You are saying absolutely nothing which disproves my points that I have highlighted.

Alvarez won the fight vs Khan. But there were stages, rounds, long periods of time in that fight were? He pretty much had no answer for Khan's speed, movement, and gears 'And that was why he was dropping rounds' This is a historical observable fact.

And it is those attributes that Alvarez has trouble with most stylistically as a fighter 'Speed, Movement, Endurance & Gears'.

I am saying nothing outrages here, because it common knowledge 'And actually a shared understanding that most people in boxing have regarding Canelo Alvarez's abilities'.

Note: I have stated all that really needs to be said on this topic, from my point of view.

Khan had the attributes to trouble Alvarez for 3 or 4 rounds. That’s it.

If he had been more durable and punched harder and had a higher boxing IQ maybe he could have actually won the fight. But that would require him to be something other than what he actually was.

You enjoy the rest of your evening.

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Khan had the attributes to trouble Alvarez for 3 or 4 rounds. That’s it.

If he had been more durable and punched harder and had a higher boxing IQ maybe he could have actually won the fight. But that would require him to be something other than what he actually was.

You enjoy the rest of your evening.

It's like saying if Victor Ortiz had a better chin, heart and cardio he would have whooped Floyd. Lol