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  • Madison Boxing
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    #11
    the guys hes fought arent very good its as simple as that, can show me all the rankings you want not one fighter he has fought is any where near anyones p4p list... not hard to look unbeatable if the opposition isnt very good and it never is at them weight classes very few american/eastern euros are small enough to make them weight divisions... donaire stepped up to the big boy weight classes got whooped a few times and was able to come back down at 40 years old and be one of the best fighters in inoues division and gave him a tough fight which says it all...
    Last edited by Madison Boxing; 05-02-2023, 04:35 PM.

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    • ELPacman
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      #12
      I think if he faces an equal will powered/skilled opponent such as Donaire in their first fight, he can have some trouble. I mean Donaire marked him up pretty good and landed good shots. Made him look mortal in that fight. Granted, since then he hasn't. I'm not sure whose another Donaire in the division that will come with the will power to win and not just accept his inevitable KO loss.

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        #13
        Originally posted by ELPacman
        I think if he faces an equal will powered/skilled opponent such as Donaire in their first fight, he can have some trouble. I mean Donaire marked him up pretty good and landed good shots. Made him look mortal in that fight. Granted, since then he hasn't. I'm not sure whose another Donaire in the division that will come with the will power to win and not just accept his inevitable KO loss.
        If Naoya moved up to 126, probably Robeisy could beat him if he remained at the division.

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          #14
          Originally posted by The Madison
          the guys hes fought arent very good its as simple as that, can show me all the rankings you want not one fighter he has fought is any where near anyones p4p list... not hard to look unbeatable if the opposition isnt very good and it never is at them weight classes very few american/eastern euros are small enough to make them weight divisions... donaire stepped up to the big boy weight classes got whooped a few times and was able to come back down at 40 years old and be one of the best fighters in inoues division and gave him a tough fight which says it all...
          Roman and Estrada blatantly ducked him. Nonito's a certified ATG with one of the most potent left hooks in history. He had 4 highlight reel KOs before and after the first Inoue fight. The only reason Inoue looked "vulnerable" in the first Nonito fight was because he had his eye socket broken in the second round. We saw what happened in the rematch when Inoue wasn't fighting with double vision.

          And just as a basis of comparison, a prime and rampaging Nonito looked pedestrian against Narvaez. Couldn't hurt or drop him. 7-0 Inoue destroyed him in 2.

          Tell me what P4P fighters did the following names beat:

          Crawford
          Spence (Mikey was a lightweight despite having fought at 140 before)
          Usyk
          Lomachenko (Rigondeaux was tiny, but Rigondeaux begged for the fight)
          Fury
          Stevenson
          Haney
          Charlo
          Canelo (robbed GGG twice)

          Only Bivol has a P4P name on his resume in Canelo.



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            #15
            He doesn’t interview in English, tends to fight mostly in Japan!

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              #16
              Originally posted by The Madison
              the guys hes fought arent very good its as simple as that, can show me all the rankings you want not one fighter he has fought is any where near anyones p4p list... not hard to look unbeatable if the opposition isnt very good and it never is at them weight classes very few american/eastern euros are small enough to make them weight divisions... donaire stepped up to the big boy weight classes got whooped a few times and was able to come back down at 40 years old and be one of the best fighters in inoues division and gave him a tough fight which says it all...
              You can only beat who's available.

              How many of the current top 10 p4p fighters have beaten anyone else in the top 10 p4p or even likely HOF'ers or looked unbeatable? Beterbiev hasn't beaten anyone. Canelo only arguably beat Golovkin. Golovkin hasn't beaten anyone and arguably lost to Derevyanchenko and Danny Jacobs, neither who are close to p4p. Crawford hasn't beaten anyone. Loma hasn't beaten anyone. Spence nearly lost to Shawn Porter. Jermell nearly lost to Castano. Josh Taylor should've lost to Catterall. Tank hasn't beaten anyone.

              A way over the hill Chisora gave Usyk a tough fight and Wallin, a nobody, gave Fury a tough fight and those guys are nowhere near p4p. They're not even top 10 in their own weight class. So does that say it all as well?
              Last edited by tritium_arma; 05-02-2023, 07:49 PM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Zaroku
                He doesn’t interview in English, tends to fight mostly in Japan!
                Have you seen him live?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by _Rexy_

                  Have you seen him live?
                  Walking around in street clothes. But never in a boxing match.

                  Scalpers in Japan make it hard to tix to his fights.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                    He relies more on his guard than his head movement.

                    Inoue doesn’t seem that elusive but as you said he doesn’t get hit too much either.
                    His distance control is phenomenal aswell. He seems to always be at the perfect distance to get in and out without being hit.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The Madison
                      the guys hes fought arent very good its as simple as that, can show me all the rankings you want not one fighter he has fought is any where near anyones p4p list... not hard to look unbeatable if the opposition isnt very good and it never is at them weight classes very few american/eastern euros are small enough to make them weight divisions... donaire stepped up to the big boy weight classes got whooped a few times and was able to come back down at 40 years old and be one of the best fighters in inoues division and gave him a tough fight which says it all...
                      Yeah, Coolboy Steph fight will be very telling. First dangerous fighter he’s yet to face.

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