How good is a fighter if they need a 15-20lb advantage to be competitive?

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  • -Kev-
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    How good is a fighter if they need a 15-20lb advantage to be competitive?

    How good is a fighter if they need a 15-20lb advantage to be competitive?

    The last two great fighters, Mayweather and Pacquiao were always at a size disadvantage. Fans respected that (for the most part).

    Usyk is smaller than the other top HW’s, but he’s a unified champion.

    Canelo is fighting guys his size at 168.

    Lomachenko moved up to 135 for bigger fights, where he is the smaller fighter on fight night.

    So, why do some fighters rely on being 15-20lbs heavier than their opponent? And if they don’t have that advantage then they suck? And then if they move up they would also have issues fighting guys their own size?
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    #2
    the fighter is not as good as he thinks or his fans think he is

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    • Madison Boxing
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      #3
      Originally posted by -Kev-
      How good is a fighter if they need a 15-20lb advantage to be competitive?

      The last two great fighters, Mayweather and Pacquiao were always at a size disadvantage. Fans respected that (for the most part).

      Usyk is smaller than the other top HW’s, but he’s a unified champion.

      Canelo is fighting guys his size at 168.

      Lomachenko moved up to 135 for bigger fights, where he is the smaller fighter on fight night.

      So, why do some fighters rely on being 15-20lbs heavier than their opponent? And if they don’t have that advantage then they suck? And then if they move up they would also have issues fighting guys their own size?
      more fool him....if you move up to fight in a weight class which isnt ideal for you and lose then thats your fault... i never get this weight bully stuff you can either make weight or you cant, you dont need to prove yourself by fighting bigger fighters its bull****

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      • Smash
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        #4
        but we dont actually know their fight night weights, we dont even know tanks fight night weight, we know he weighs for example 145 next morning after weighin but what about just before he enters the ring, same with all guys, its mostly speculation which is dangerous more often than not

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        • elfag
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          #5
          reminds me of ricky hatton.

          Used to blow up between fights then could barely make 140 anymore but was "too small" for 147.... like no dude you are just overrated and needed a massive weight advantage over your opponents at 140, when they were the same size as you at 147 you ******.

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          • elfag
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            #6
            Originally posted by -Kev-
            How good is a fighter if they need a 15-20lb advantage to be competitive?

            The last two great fighters, Mayweather and Pacquiao were always at a size disadvantage. Fans respected that (for the most part).

            Usyk is smaller than the other top HW’s, but he’s a unified champion.

            Canelo is fighting guys his size at 168.

            Lomachenko moved up to 135 for bigger fights, where he is the smaller fighter on fight night.

            So, why do some fighters rely on being 15-20lbs heavier than their opponent? And if they don’t have that advantage then they suck? And then if they move up they would also have issues fighting guys their own size?



            Also most of those guys mentioned who barely have to cut - mayweather, pac, loma had great stamina, not having to drop 20 pounds and rehydrate really helps. And Usyk even though no weight cuts at heavyweight, that has given many heavyweights to become fat slobs or steroid mass monsters... well Usyk showed being a slim fighters physique and staying the same weight year round really helps your stamina for heavyweight just as it does every other division.

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            • _Rexy_
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              #7
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              How good is a fighter if they need a 15-20lb advantage to be competitive?

              The last two great fighters, Mayweather and Pacquiao were always at a size disadvantage. Fans respected that (for the most part).

              Usyk is smaller than the other top HW’s, but he’s a unified champion.

              Canelo is fighting guys his size at 168.

              Lomachenko moved up to 135 for bigger fights, where he is the smaller fighter on fight night.

              So, why do some fighters rely on being 15-20lbs heavier than their opponent? And if they don’t have that advantage then they suck? And then if they move up they would also have issues fighting guys their own size?
              I’d add Inoue to that list. He fought bigger guys than him at 118 and now he’s moving up again. Bivol is also constantly the smaller fighter. Pretty sure the only time he’s had a reach advantage was against Canelo
              Last edited by _Rexy_; 04-29-2023, 03:56 PM.

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              • JakeTheBoxer
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                #8
                Ramirez is obviously not a good fighter. Even 20 lbs advantage in the ring didn`t help him against Bivol, lol.

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                • DoubleMM
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                  #9
                  Haney is an avg fighter

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                  • al-Xander
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                    #10
                    If you're talking about cases like Tank Davis imposing weight limits on his opponents on fight night, then they're really not that good. I haven't checked how many in the past have similar cases. Probably a handful.

                    I'm fine with the existing rules where fighters are only required to weigh at certain weight on day of weigh in. I could care less how much they rehydrate the next day or on fight night. It's been that way since time immemorial. And I don't think they intentionally put that much weigh for the advantage of it. They starve themselves for weeks and it's natural for any human to be excited about gobbling lots of foods they've been deprived of in the past weeks, days.

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