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  • I_Didn't_Hear_No_Bell
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    #21
    Originally posted by johncods
    He got hit as he was throwing a punch. That's the worst way to get hit with in boxing. You have zero clue what your talking about lol.

    Also Garcia's very lean.. Not a lot of cushion there lol.

    If you have zero experience in boxing and never sparred or fought in a boxing ring and never been hit by a liver shot.. shut the **** up.. And I'm not a fan of Garcia either. Always cracks me up when people who have never fought say stuff like this
    You'd have a point if fellow boxers weren't also saying it, it's not just fat bums on the internet. And he clearly was able to get up right as the count was ending, if he had stayed down the whole time you might be right. Obviously punches hurt, but he's a pro boxer and he definitely wasn't hurt to the point of not being able to continue. He gave up because he was being dominated.

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      #22
      Originally posted by johncods
      He got hit as he was throwing a punch. That's the worst way to get hit with in boxing. You have zero clue what your talking about lol.

      Also Garcia's very lean.. Not a lot of cushion there lol.

      If you have zero experience in boxing and never sparred or fought in a boxing ring and never been hit by a liver shot.. shut the **** up.. And I'm not a fan of Garcia either. Always cracks me up when people who have never fought say stuff like this
      He could have gotten up. He chose not to.

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      • johncods
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        #23
        Originally posted by I_Didn't_Hear_No_Bell

        You'd have a point if fellow boxers weren't also saying it, it's not just fat bums on the internet. And he clearly was able to get up right as the count was ending, if he had stayed down the whole time you might be right. Obviously punches hurt, but he's a pro boxer and he definitely wasn't hurt to the point of not being able to continue. He gave up because he was being dominated.
        Not all boxers like Garcia and some just like to talk to big themselves up. Boxers aren't the most humble sportsmen lol.

        If I was in a boxing match id rather take a punch to the head than what Garcia got hit with. The perfect body shot will shut your body down..

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          #24
          Originally posted by War Room


          The glove did not dig in at all, mostly palm. Totally reminds me of Hopkins vs Oscar.

          Ryan getting up at 10 with the ref told me a lot. When you get dropped or hurt from a body shot you stay down (I've been there trust me), you don't pop right up because you literally can't breath. Ryan popped up at 10.
          • Did he take a dive?
          • Did he just fold under pressure?
          • Was his punch resistance inhibited from being drained?
          I'm not sure, I'm not sure what to make of it. I mean, even Tank said he thought he was getting up. Also, Ryan said during the interview something like "I'm not saying any more, yea I couldn't breath" like he wanted to go deeper.

          All this hype for such a terrible ending.
          It's strange situation. When you get hit on the body and you can't breathe, you don't pop up at 10 like nothing happened.

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            #25
            Originally posted by War Room


            The glove did not dig in at all, mostly palm. Totally reminds me of Hopkins vs Oscar.

            Ryan getting up at 10 with the ref told me a lot. When you get dropped or hurt from a body shot you stay down (I've been there trust me), you don't pop right up because you literally can't breath. Ryan popped up at 10.
            • Did he take a dive?
            • Did he just fold under pressure?
            • Was his punch resistance inhibited from being drained?
            I'm not sure, I'm not sure what to make of it. I mean, even Tank said he thought he was getting up. Also, Ryan said during the interview something like "I'm not saying any more, yea I couldn't breath" like he wanted to go deeper.

            All this hype for such a terrible ending.
            while i totally agree with your assessments, i don’t think that pic is the same shot that finished the fight?

            it was a hook to body and it was on target, not palming most of it. Tank was inside garcia’s range and wasn’t reaching at all like the one in the picture… Ryan definitely could have continued though.

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              #26
              Originally posted by War Room


              The glove did not dig in at all, mostly palm. Totally reminds me of Hopkins vs Oscar.

              Ryan getting up at 10 with the ref told me a lot. When you get dropped or hurt from a body shot you stay down (I've been there trust me), you don't pop right up because you literally can't breath. Ryan popped up at 10.
              • Did he take a dive?
              • Did he just fold under pressure?
              • Was his punch resistance inhibited from being drained?
              I'm not sure, I'm not sure what to make of it. I mean, even Tank said he thought he was getting up. Also, Ryan said during the interview something like "I'm not saying any more, yea I couldn't breath" like he wanted to go deeper.

              All this hype for such a terrible ending.
              If you are severely weight drained your body become so weak and you will have no resistance to pain and punches that's the reason why garcia went down even with a simple touch from davis.

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                #27
                Originally posted by johncods
                If you have zero experience in boxing and never sparred or fought in a boxing ring and never been hit by a liver shot.. shut the **** up.. And I'm not a fan of Garcia either. Always cracks me up when people who have never fought say stuff like this
                I have experience in this exact situation and you don't pop up at 10. I know for 100% fact you have no real experience to draw from. Don't even try to front.

                Originally posted by johncods

                Not all boxers like Garcia and some just like to talk to big themselves up. Boxers aren't the most humble sportsmen lol.

                If I was in a boxing match id rather take a punch to the head than what Garcia got hit with. The perfect body shot will shut your body down..
                That is the furthest thing from a perfect body shot.​



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                  #28
                  Reminded me of Victor Ortiz vs Maidana. He wasn’t hurt that bad but mentally he was finished and wanted out.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by johncods

                    Not all boxers like Garcia and some just like to talk to big themselves up. Boxers aren't the most humble sportsmen lol.

                    If I was in a boxing match id rather take a punch to the head than what Garcia got hit with. The perfect body shot will shut your body down..
                    If his body was shut down the way a body punch can shut you down he wouldn't have gotten up at the count of 10.5 lol.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by EmpiresBoxing

                      If you are severely weight drained your body become so weak and you will have no resistance to pain and punches that's the reason why garcia went down even with a simple touch from davis.
                      ward vs dawson style or is ward some huge puncher now? i know dawson didnt have a great chin but he was falling over from little cuffing hooks to his head. shameful thing tank and floyd have done to boxing. fighting small japanese boys and zombies.

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