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  • #61
    Originally posted by Basco View Post

    If the rehadration clause do nothing, why did they ask for one? Surely you could 't be that naive.
    Mind games, the IBF has this as mandatory in its title fights it happens a lot its not new to this fight, its a powerplay maybe a scare tactic to run Ryan off.

    The 136 was the tactic, they squeezing Ryan doesn't mean they fking him, and if Ryan does things perfectly it could backfire on Davis and so far the numbers say he is right on track, don't fall into the narrative without understanding those numbers, Im trying to explain them are you reading them or just blowing it off, Ryan is fine.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

      Mind games, the IBF has this as mandatory in its title fights it happens a lot its not new to this fight, its a powerplay maybe a scare tactic to run Ryan off.

      The 136 was the tactic, they squeezing Ryan doesn't mean they fking him, and if Ryan does things perfectly it could backfire on Davis and so far the numbers say he is right on track, don't fall into the narrative without understanding those numbers, Im trying to explain them are you reading them or just blowing it off, Ryan is fine.
      That is your own narrative, it doesn't make it true because you have no idea how it will affect Garcia in the fight. You have no idea at what rate Ryan rehydrates after cutting weight and how close or far off this rehydration clause is from his normal. That being said, you just throwing numbers around to see if they stick but, they don't really mean anything.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Basco View Post

        That is your own narrative, it doesn't make it true because you have no idea how it will affect Garcia in the fight. You have no idea at what rate Ryan rehydrates after cutting weight and how close or far off this rehydration clause is from his normal. That being said, you just throwing numbers around to see if they stick but, they don't really mean anything.
        On a personal level I don't know Garcia, Im reading the numbers and looking at all the angles shown and then referenced that against what I know from experience, Im 70 yrs old and have done a lot of things in my life, I know fight weight and how it works in a fighter, Im real easy to beat it just takes facts and your not bringing any, I,ll debate facts all day but I get bored with arguments spinning nothing.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

          On a personal level I don't know Garcia, Im reading the numbers and looking at all the angles shown and then referenced that against what I know from experience, Im 70 yrs old and have done a lot of things in my life, I know fight weight and how it works in a fighter, Im real easy to beat it just takes facts and your not bringing any, I,ll debate facts all day but I get bored with arguments spinning nothing.
          Exactly my point, I don't bring any facts because I don't know how either would be affected and neither do you! We will have to wait and watch the fight.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Basco View Post

            Exactly my point, I don't bring any facts because I don't know how either would be affected and neither do you! We will have to wait and watch the fight.
            You don't bring facts because you don't have any you have never done it or been close to it, we both have the numbers and they have meaning, fck me lol what do think reading form is all about, do think pro punters gotta be an uncle to know if the numbers are right, sport is numbers you don't have to know them, you only need to know the numbers, I hope we get their ring weight shown tonight that will complete the set.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

              You keep harping BS that you know nothing about, there is still 10 hrs to go he will gain another 4/6 pounds which puts him at his normal fight night weight, I think you are trying to create an excuse you have done nothing but cry about it for days even though you have the 2 weighins being perfect, Ryan and his Father and trainer have been saying his weight is perfect, he looks in great conditions and everything is on track but you just keep on crying your ignorant BS.
              You dont know anything about boxing.

              Kovalev was saying the same thing before the fight all them say the same.


              But clearly Is not good, the fighters cant be at his Best with this kind of clausules

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post

                You dont know anything about boxing.

                Kovalev was saying the same thing before the fight all them say the same.


                But clearly Is not good, the fighters cant be at his Best with this kind of clausules
                Yes they can if the clause does not do what you think it does, they have different effects on different people the 10lbs the morning after means nothing and the IBF has been doing it for years, if something wrong the signs will be there and they are not there here, understand what I just said. ,because you are ignoring what is right in front of your face, and that's because you don't understand the meaning of what is front of your eyes. This CW and Clause had no detrimental effect his hydration numbers are saying it , you talk about conditions like are automatically a wrecked fighter, that's true if its too much and the fighter cant do it but the numbers leading to the fight will tell you something is messed up.

                Ryan is fine as far as weight and conditioning, the 136 could backfire on Tank because Ryan will be very fast, Ryans is on point I cant believe the people trying so hard to see a shadow they don't see what's in front of them.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                  For a fighter there is a perfect ounce and the wrong/right side of that ounce slides away from perfect on a scale, great conditioning nails that spot with around 3% on the drier side, that's the sweet spot. overall being wet is terrible for performance just as being too dry is, there is a perfect spot where a body has its most power its most speed and its fastest recovery rates after maximal effort, these are the ebbs and flows in fights.

                  cryin nailed that sweet spot **** on

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                    But who says there will be a lack of fluids by fight time, that's the entire exercise about making weight and putting back on, you want to be slightly dry if anything its better than being overall wet, you can pack too much water into the cells and this can make you very sluggish.
                    opinion is strong with this one.

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