Is the heavyweight division in America dead?

[Sid-Knee]

Not best since Wlad, 2nd best. 1. Fury 2. Wilder.

Well, that's what you said. 2nd best since Wlad means Wlad takes the number 1 spot with Wilder taking the 2nd spot.

Tell me what Wilder has done to deserve second place when he hasn't beaten a single world class fighter? Delusion and entitlement isn't going to cut the mustard. Give me something rational.

To think the bum overcomes a very good world class fighter in AJ and an ATG in Usyk is nothing short of insanity. Wilder isn't even above the likes of Joyce, Whyte, Ruiz, Povetkin, Parker, Chisora, Haye, Vitali, or Zhang. They have better resumes than Wilder. They fought much better competition. They didn't duck everyone and then go for a fighter they thought was shot only to get slapped around by that fighter the way Wilder did. His claim to fame is being detached from reality, being the biggest coward in boxing history, and getting smacked up by Fury 3 times out of 3. That's it. He achieved nothing else.

[Pigeons]

based on what though? joshuas resume is much better. even andy ruizs' resume is much better. a guy like joe joyce probably has a resume at least as good. you are just overrating wilder. he was hyped based on potential but he hasnt fulfilled that potential yet. if you compare resumes he doesnt stand out at all. hes in a pack with 5-6 others and well behind several people.

Wilder is 210 lbs soaking wet. Yet he stood with the Boogeyman Ortiz twice and knocked him out both times. He fought the best heavyweight since Lennox Lewis three times and even though he never won he put up memorable fights and put Fury down 5 times total. That's better than barely beating an old Klitschko in his retirement fight. Usyk has an argument since he's beaten Joyce and Joshua 2x. He overtakes all if he can fight and beat Fury.

[daggum]

Wilder is 210 lbs soaking wet. Yet he stood with the Boogeyman Ortiz twice and knocked him out both times. He fought the best heavyweight since Lennox Lewis three times and even though he never won he put up memorable fights and put Fury down 5 times total. That's better than barely beating an old Klitschko in his retirement fight. Usyk has an argument since he's beaten Joyce and Joshua 2x. He overtakes all if he can fight and beat Fury.

wilder doesnt get special chicken leg points and he doesnt get special i lost to fury points. im sure joshua could lose to fury 3 times, im sure ruiz could, etc...and ortiz was no boogeyman, he was a 40 year old with a piss poor resume and like i said ruiz beat joshua and ortiz the "boogeyman" so obviously his resume is much better than wilders. joshua has way more top 5 and top 10 wins than wilder and wilders only notable win was against a 40 year old, joshua beat some old guys(who were much better than ortiz, how can you compare klitschko to ortiz lol) and some good guys in their primes(something wilder hasnt done). clearly better. when the hype dissipated, wilder was left with a slim resume, that was the risk he took by avoiding so many top contenders and feasting on bums. he was pursuing the "i would have beaten everyone even though i never fought them" career path but he got exposed.

[al-Xander]

Any hope of seeing UK heavyweights fighting in the US?

[SUBZER0ED]

Wilder had big paydays offered to him. He was just too scared to take them. He wanted to fight bums and live a delusional lie instead. It wasn't about money. It was about Wilder's cowardice.

I bet he wishes he'd taken that $100 million deal that DAZN offered him now. He was offered $100 million to fight mandatory Breazeale and two fights vs Joshua. He destroyed Breazeale in 1 round. He might have KO'd Joshua twice and then he would have been the A side for the first fight with Fury, as the unified HW champ. Win, lose or draw, he would have been sitting on a mountain of money and could be retired now. Instead, he's in a state of limbo, trying to figure out who he'll face next at the age of 37. Sure he's rich, but he could be so much more rich and have a better legacy.

https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/...sso_ott=kGsy1e

[buge]

Well, that's what you said. 2nd best since Wlad means Wlad takes the number 1 spot with Wilder taking the 2nd spot.

How does that make sense? What would it mean if someone says Wilder is the best since Wlad? Now compare to the 2nd best since Wlad.

[al-Xander]

Seems even the number one guy, Wilder, is not even interested in fighting in America now.

[FaustoGeraci]

If you read it properly, he said Wilder is the 2nd best Heavyweight since Klitschko. Wlad takes the number 1 spot with Wilder taking the number 2 spot.

Fury has fought who he knew he could beat. Wilder was perfect. It's only when it came to the actual best in AJ and Usyk that he didn't want to know.

You're really slow. What the person was inferring is that Fury is the best since Wlad. Hence SINCE Klitschko. Smh. And you said Wilder isn't top 10 right now? But AJ is the "actual best" with Usyk? Log off.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Only in America?

It is almost dead on top level.

[juggernaut666]

Any hope of seeing UK heavyweights fighting in the US?

Dillian Whyte wowed us over here already .

Nah the U.S doesn’t put the efforts marketing guys enough ,they don’t actually market U.S guys themselves because the promoters here are out dated ,and don’t offer any incentive to leave their native country enough . Joyce fought here a few times and was gaining momentum bf Covid . The U.K pretty much has the heavy weight division owned marketing good fights , we only had Anderson vs Arias recently and that’s lame that’s why everybody is going to the U.K and looking to get on those undercards if they can .

If I was boxing there’s no way I’d want to box here when I can get a bigger profile at arenas like the O2 , over here there’s more casual fans then loyal ones no one’s going to remember you if Arum is your promoter and starting out etc…….One thing is today ppl know th3 promoters as good as the fighters , Warren and Hearn are to good of promoters to actually compete with combined even if they are competing against each other in the U.K they will promote better and everyone likes when their fighters fight each other so the fighters get noticed more .