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  • #51
    Originally posted by FaustoGeraci View Post

    Maybe in your derranged mind or the TS who seems to have a lot of awful takes. Fury is clearly #1. Usyk went life and death with Chisora. Struggled in his HW fight previous to that. When Fury beats Usyk this winter I wonder who the new boogeyman will be.

    The Fury that fought Wilder in the 2nd fight can destroy any HW of all time.
    Nothing like that happened. Usyk beat Chisora clearly and he beat Joshua twice. Usyk also beats all important guys at cruiserweight.

    Usyk is clearly more proven fighter than Fury

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    • #52
      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
      He is considered the best. Based on beating Klitschko 7 years ago? Based on beating Whyte? Lol, even 100 old Povetkin beat Whyte. he beat him better than Fury did. Based on beating one-trick-pony 3 times?

      It is time to wake up. Usyk, Joshua, DDD, Zhang, Ruiz, Hrgovic, Sanchez, many other guys are waiting that Fury gets some balls and fights somebody relevant.
      Im not British and all those guys you mentioned are very incomplete boxers. Fury is extremely complete more than ALL OF THEM. That said, Usyk I think will give him some trouble with movement but he’s no power threat. Otto is one hell of a fighter that matches up well with Fury. No one seems to call him out. Also, Wilder would whip ALL those guys you mentioned even being a “one trick pony”.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
        He is considered the best. Based on beating Klitschko 7 years ago? Based on beating Whyte? Lol, even 100 old Povetkin beat Whyte. he beat him better than Fury did. Based on beating one-trick-pony 3 times?

        It is time to wake up. Usyk, Joshua, DDD, Zhang, Ruiz, Hrgovic, Sanchez, many other guys are waiting that Fury gets some balls and fights somebody relevant.
        i really thought you’re going to have a solid point until you said Povetkin beat Whyte better than Fury lol. Povetkin was losing the first fight against Whyte until he landed a hell of an uppercut… and he lost the rematch while fury toyed with Whyte without losing a single round until he koed him. I dont highly rate Whyte at all, but a lot of fans were asking fury to fight him since he was his mandatory and that he deserve his shot at the title, now it is used against fury because he koed him with ease? AJ fans even considered him one of his best wins now their changing their tunes… seems AJ is even on the way of rematching him..

        i get the blame for fury for the fury-usyk downfall but lets not rewrite history…

        fury fighting chisora again was BS but it’s also the same chisora usyk struggled with.lol

        so idk top 1 & 2 in the heavyweight division are fury and usyk, that’s interchageable..
        they’re both at the top regardless of what u feel.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by dibzvincent143 View Post

          i really thought you’re going to have a solid point until you said Povetkin beat Whyte better than Fury lol. Povetkin was losing the first fight against Whyte until he landed a hell of an uppercut… and he lost the rematch while fury toyed with Whyte without losing a single round until he koed him. I dont highly rate Whyte at all, but a lot of fans were asking fury to fight him since he was his mandatory and that he deserve his shot at the title, now it is used against fury because he koed him with ease? AJ fans even considered him one of his best wins now their changing their tunes… seems AJ is even on the way of rematching him..

          i get the blame for fury for the fury-usyk downfall but lets not rewrite history…

          fury fighting chisora again was BS but it’s also the same chisora usyk struggled with.lol

          so idk top 1 & 2 in the heavyweight division are fury and usyk, that’s interchageable..
          they’re both at the top regardless of what u feel.
          Fury did not toy with Whyte, it was a underwhelming fight and performance from Fury 'Until the knock out'.

          No hardcore Joshua fan claims that Whyte is one of Joshua's best wins 'Joshua was not even a Champion at that stage of his career'.

          But Joshua did actually beat a better version of Whyte compare to Fury 'Whyte could actually move back then, and was clearly a better conditioned fighter'.

          By the time Whyte eventually got his title fight vs Fury, I have always been adamant that he was burnt out i.e I was actually supporting and backing Tyson Fury over Whyte in that match up'.

          Fury's last two fights have barely been at World level, and skill for skill they have not really been great performances in my opinion.

          Whyte was in the fight vs Fury until the knock-out and astonishingly even though his movement is way below par 'He was still able to find Fury'.

          The Chisora who fought Fury was also possible the worst version of Chisora for close to a decade 'Chisora has clearly not trained with the intention of 1000% winning since his fights against Usyk & Parker. Because the Chisora's brand was not about winning, it was about being involved in dramatic action packed fights 'And attracting the UK casual fans to enjoy a night out singing songs'.

          That is no disrespect towards Chisora, but essentially that is the game he has been running since leaving Team Hayemaker.

          Note: Tyson Fury does have a tendency to fight to the level of his opponent. So I am aware that against a higher level opponent, Fury will raise his game 'The history of his performances displays this trait'. Even still regardless his last two fights have barely been at World level, and I don't think he has produced any performance since Wilder II 'Which suggest that he is miles better than his nearest competition on current form'.

          But on merit, Tyson Fury is and should still be ranked as the number 1 Heavyweight 'Tyson Fury still has the two best wins on his resume, out of all active heavyweights'.


          Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 04-22-2023, 12:00 PM.

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          • #55
            I love how Denium ignores the fact that Fury is a drug cheat. Dude isn’t a fan of boxing, he’s a fanboy

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            • #56
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

              Fury did not toy with Whyte, it was a underwhelming fight and performance from Fury 'Until the knock out'.

              No hardcore Joshua fan claims that Whyte is one of Joshua's best wins 'Joshua was not even a Champion at that stage of his career'.

              But Joshua did actually beat a better version of Whyte compare to Fury 'Whyte could actually move back then, and was clearly a better conditioned fighter'.

              By the time Whyte eventually got his title fight vs Fury, I have always been adamant that he was burnt out i.e I was actually supporting and backing Tyson Fury over Whyte in that match up'.

              Fury's last two fights have barely been at World level, and skill for skill they have not really been great performances in my opinion.

              Whyte was in the fight vs Fury until the knock-out and astonishingly even though his movement is way below par 'He was still able to find Fury'.

              The Chisora who fought Fury was also possible the worst version of Chisora for close to a decade 'Chisora has clearly not trained with the intention of 1000% winning since his fights against Usyk & Parker. Because the Chisora's brand was not about winning, it was about being involved in dramatic action packed fights 'And attracting the UK casual fans to enjoy a night out singing songs'.

              That is no disrespect towards Chisora, but essentially that is the game he has been running since leaving Team Hayemaker.

              Note: Tyson Fury does have a tendency to fight to the level of his opponent. So I am aware that against a higher level opponent, Fury will raise his game 'The history of his performances displays this trait'. Even still regardless his last two fights have barely been at World level, and I don't think he has produced any performance since Wilder II 'Which suggest that he is miles better than his nearest competition on current form'.

              But on merit, Tyson Fury is and should still be ranked as the number 1 Heavyweight 'Tyson Fury still has the two best wins on his resume, out of all active heavyweights'.


              Whyte was in the fight with Fury? There goes all of your credibility in one post. Wow. Get your eyes checked.

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              • #57
                It is always time to question whether h2h he is the best! Nobody is saying furys is the best because of his resume, it isn't really the best. It's fury perceived skillset.
                So in that sense fury needs to take on all comers, to challenge h2h ability
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                • #58
                  It was a nothing fight until the knock-out. If you was to take away the knockout, was Tyson Fury beating up Whyte before that point? No.

                  Show me, try and show me footage from Whyte vs Fury prior to the knock-out were Fury was toying with Whyte?

                  Fury was winning the fight, but I would not go as far as stating that he was toying with Whtye.

                  Fury's last two fights and performances have not been at a super high level. But as I have stated in my prior posts, Fury does have a tendency to fight to the level of his opponent 'Fury will and has always raised his game vs Higher level fighters' I can say will, because that is what his performance history displays etc.

                  FaustoGeraci



                  Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 04-22-2023, 02:00 PM.

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