Where do you rank Pavlik on the P4P list?

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  • Iceta
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    #11
    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
    I wouldn't have Pav or PWill on mine, there are much more skilled and accomplished active fighters than those two.
    More active than Pavlik. But how more active than P-Will? The Punisher fought four times last year. P-Will is on some throw back ****. The Pavlik fight would've happened sooner, but that's not P-Will's fault that Pavlik wouldn't get his hand problem taken care of.

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    • Spray_resistant
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      #12
      Originally posted by Iceta
      More active than Pavlik. But how more active than P-Will? The Punisher fought four times last year. P-Will is on some throw back ****. The Pavlik fight would've happened sooner, but that's not P-Will's fault that Pavlik wouldn't get his hand problem taken care of.
      Not enough good wins, right now for me to put Pwill in my top 10....also I take perceived skill into huge consideration when doing my own rankings....

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        #13
        Pavlik needs a win over a big name again that is all. He is not on the list because he hasn't proved himself against another big name. A win over Williams would be great because it would put his name is back in peoples mouths again.

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        • Iceta
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          #14
          Originally posted by Spray_resistant
          Not enough good wins, right now for me to put Pwill in my top 10....also I take perceived skill into huge consideration when doing my own rankings....
          Margarito, Quintana the second time, and Winky Wright are wins you can discredit if you are not a P-Will fan. But it is a better resume than Caballero's resume or Donaire's resume.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Iceta
            Margarito, Quintana the second time, and Winky Wright are wins you can discredit if you are not a P-Will fan. But it is a better resume than Caballero's resume or Donaire's resume.
            I don't have Caba or Donaire on there either. I think you are putting too much emphasis on the wins a fighter has. Yes wins are an indicator of how good someone is but the p4p system is saying for the most part; if all of the best fighters in the world could be scaled to the same size while retaining all of their abilities that made them successful who would be the best? So skill should be given the most consideration I think, that is why Floyd is justified as #2 right now.
            I like PWill but he hasn't really been tested where he belongs at MW, where he started actually.

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            • Ch@mpBox@PR
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              #16
              Originally posted by Iceta
              Some people think Cotto lost against Clottey, even though after I watched it a second time I scored it for Cotto. Winky is a better fighter than Clottey in my view even though he was coming off a longer layoff than Clottey did and P-Will whitewashed him.
              Styles makes fights first of all.

              Second, Cottos body of worl ****s on Williams. You cant be saying Williams should be higer based on one win!!!!!

              Williams doesnt even have a succesfull title defense!!!!!!

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                #17
                Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                Styles makes fights first of all.

                Second, Cottos body of worl ****s on Williams. You cant be saying Williams should be higer based on one win!!!!!

                Williams doesnt even have a succesfull title defense!!!!!!
                He would've happily defended his WBO title against Cotto, but Cotto went in another direction obviously.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Iceta
                  He would've happily defended his WBO title against Cotto, but Cotto went in another direction obviously.
                  Thats not the point and thats irrelevant to the topic!!!

                  Williams is not better P4P than Cotto period!!!!!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                    Thats not the point and thats irrelevant to the topic!!!

                    Williams is not better P4P than Cotto period!!!!!
                    To each their own. At least you've got him in your rankings even though it should be titled Ricans R Us. Lol.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Iceta
                      To each their own. At least you've got him in your rankings even though it should be titled Ricans R Us. Lol.
                      WHy? tell me what Prrican in my Divisional rankings is ranked in a wrong postion or a postion that I cant debate that they he should be there.

                      Stop trying to take shots at me, because you wrong in what your saying!!!

                      Cotto>>>>>>>>>>Williams nuff said!!!!

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