Comments Thread For: Hearn: Right Now Joshua is Not at The Optimum Level He Could Be To Face Fury, Wilder

[theface07]

I think Derrick James is a great trainer but it's too bad Joshua didn't stay with Garcia because there was noticeable improvement form the first Usyk fight to the second. I think he would've benefitted from another camp with Robert. I didn't notice any improvements in the Franklin fight, especially considering Franklin is nowhere near the boxer Usyk is.
I don't think it's James' fault AJ looked mediocre against Franklin but maybe Garcia's training style was better suited.

[theface07]

He looked better with Robert Garcia.

Agreed.

[theface07]

This arrogant, pampered bodybuilder will be kept safe and sound away from Wilder. Doesn't mind continuing to use his name to try and keep his sheep following tuned into his garbage a$$ fights though.

One tuneup after the Usyk fight is forgivable. If This B---h fights Dillian H*e next- hopefully the drunk masses across the pond will go barhopping instead of supporting that garbage.

You keep trashing Joshua for his supposed arrogance and whatnot but would you say the same things about Wilder? He has to be easily one of the most deluded, narcissistic boxers out there. The guy thinks he's king of the universe for frig's sake. On top of that, he likes to think he's sophisticated and articulate when realistically he's an uneducated buffoon who can barely speak his native language.

[theface07]

But he needed no time to gel with Roberto huh..

looked much under Roberto against much much stiffer opposition..

the entire ordeal reeks of racism

How so? He chose Garcia before any other trainer did he not? How would it be racism if he selected a Mexican American in Robert Garcia to train him for the rematch with Usyk? According to Joshua, he didn't like some of the comments Garcia made to the media. Whether justified or not, I don't think it's racism. I just think AJ is overly sensitive and takes comments in interviews and online way too seriously.

[davefromvancouv]

I've been saying Joshua wasn't ready for 5 years. But Joshua would have BECOME better if he had fought Wilder for undisputed in 2018. Instead, he got destroyed by Andy Ruiz and has never mentally recovered from that embarrassment...

True boxing fans missed a great fight and potentially a great trilogy...

[Cool Scant]

“I just want him to go in with the best chance that he can have to win” That’s literally what AJ said about fighting wilder in 2018 before he sent BombZquad lowball flat fee offers with the intentions of them being rejected

[Nusky]

You keep trashing Joshua for his supposed arrogance and whatnot but would you say the same things about Wilder? He has to be easily one of the most deluded, narcissistic boxers out there. The guy thinks he's king of the universe for frig's sake. On top of that, he likes to think he's sophisticated and articulate when realistically he's an uneducated buffoon who can barely speak his native language.

Wilder is narcissistic-alot of top fighters are. Delusional?.. He has been know to be that as well. One would argue that starting boxing In your late teens and believing you can become heavyweight champ of the world and then actually doing it, would require an extreme self belief bordering on delusion.

Don't know how sophisticated or articulate HE THINKS he is-but I know he is neither of those things. He's Preachy, also trips on and mispronounces words all the time. Do I NEED a fighter to be either of those two things? No...don't give a f--k about them. You clearly do though. I guess the contrived, cringe-inducing way the bodybuilder Speaks really tickles your fancy. I guess you like the facade of sophistication instead of the real thing..from a cornball so lacking in self awareness that its comical at this point.

Now with that said- does that make anything I said in my previous post about Joshua false? Will he actually fight Wilder? Or will it be another cash grab fight with a creampuff next? Or are you more concerned about how fighters act outside the ring instead of what they do inside of it?

Because nothing you touched on was about an actual fight............................

[PRINCEKOOL]

Not sure what’s so hard to understand, he was never all that great to begin with. Hearn and a bozo fan base hyped him up to be something he wasn’t.

Who is great in this Heavyweight division then?

Because whether you like to admit, or acknowledge it or not 'Joshua has been one of the premier Champions within this era of Heavyweights'.

So by using the term 'He was never all that great' this kind of talk does not quite describe his level.

Fury, Joshua, Wilder. These have been the three most influential and best fighters of this Heavyweight era 'These are THE GREAT FIGHTERS of this era mate'.

And the conclusion to this Heavyweight era is still on going 'Wilder has not gone away, Joshua is still in the game and a threat. Fury cannot just **** on about his win over Kiltschko from 7-8 years ago, he still has to fight Usyk and possibly even Joshua'.

And then you have a fighter like Joyce, who is also apart of the Fury, Wilder, Joshua era 'Joyce is forcing his way into the picture, and is a definitive threat'.

So all I am saying is, that you better check yourself 'Because the game is still on going, you are speaking of Joshua as if he has gone somewhere. Joshua is still here in the game, he has just achieved his first win in 2 years and has aims to keep fight active'.

Sometimes fighters just lose mate, that is what people need to understand. Fighters sometimes lose, but just because the lose that does not suddenly mean they are not great fighters 'Because history happened, YOU cannot deny that.

Anthony Joshua in his 19th professional fight fought Wladimir Kiltschko, in front of 80'000 + fans 'And this was a Kiltschko who was denied the opportunity to win back his titles vs Tyson Fury unfortunately. Kiltschko coming into the Joshua fight had endured 3 back to back training camps'. Joshua even at this inexperienced stage of his career, was made the slight favorite against a all-time great fighter and Heavyweight Champion in Wladimir Kiltschko 'That is some serious pressure'.

Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Kiltschko turned out to be 'The greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 20 years'. And it is still the greatest Heavyweight title fight that has happened in boxing since the actual fight 'Joshua vs Kiltschko skill for skill was a higher level fight than Wilder vs Fury III'.

It was Tyson Fury that breached the defenses of the Kiltschko dominance 'And split open the entire division, which was absolute greatness from Tyson Fury'.

But it was Anthony Joshua that sparked a revolution, because the fact of the matter is? Fury due to unfortunate circumstances did not defend his titles.

It was Anthony Joshua who fought Wladimir Kiltschko after 3 back to back training camps. It was Joshua who not only breached the defenses of the strike back of the Kiltschko reign, Joshua blasted out the Kiltschko reign.

And then there on after this point, nobody can deny that Joshua in conduct and attitude was Champion 'Joshua took on all comers, and even fought fights people advised him not to take but he did twice'.

That is greatness, people need to understand 'That Fury, Wilder, Joshua they have all played their part in this era'. All these fighters have produced catalytic moments within Heavyweight division 'Moments, fights and performances that no serious honest boxing fan and historian can deny or devalue'.

The game and the battle is still on going, the moves are still being made etc.

[Jab jab boom]

Who is great in this Heavyweight division then?

Because whether you like to admit, or acknowledge it or not 'Joshua has been one of the premier Champions within this era of Heavyweights'.

So by using the term 'He was never all that great' this kind of talk does not quite describe his level.

Fury, Joshua, Wilder. These have been the three most influential and best fighters of this Heavyweight era 'These are THE GREAT FIGHTERS of this era mate'.

And the conclusion to this Heavyweight era is still on going 'Wilder has not gone away, Joshua is still in the game and a threat. Fury cannot just **** on about his win over Kiltschko from 7-8 years ago, he still has to fight Usyk and possibly even Joshua'.

And then you have a fighter like Joyce, who is also apart of the Fury, Wilder, Joshua era 'Joyce is forcing his way into the picture, and is a definitive threat'.

So all I am saying is, that you better check yourself 'Because the game is still on going, you are speaking of Joshua as if he has gone somewhere. Joshua is still here in the game, he has just achieved his first win in 2 years and has aims to keep fight active'.

Sometimes fighters just lose mate, that is what people need to understand. Fighters sometimes lose, but just because the lose that does not suddenly mean they are not great fighters 'Because history happened, YOU cannot deny that.

Anthony Joshua in his 19th professional fight fought Wladimir Kiltschko, in front of 80'000 + fans 'And this was a Kiltschko who was denied the opportunity to win back his titles vs Tyson Fury unfortunately. Kiltschko coming into the Joshua fight had endured 3 back to back training camps'. Joshua even at this inexperienced stage of his career, was made the slight favorite against a all-time great fighter and Heavyweight Champion in Wladimir Kiltschko 'That is some serious pressure'.

Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Kiltschko turned out to be 'The greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 20 years'. And it is still the greatest Heavyweight title fight that has happened in boxing since the actual fight 'Joshua vs Kiltschko skill for skill was a higher level fight than Wilder vs Fury III'.

It was Tyson Fury that breached the defenses of the Kiltschko dominance 'And split open the entire division, which was absolute greatness from Tyson Fury'.

But it was Anthony Joshua that sparked a revolution, because the fact of the matter is? Fury due to unfortunate circumstances did not defend his titles.

It was Anthony Joshua who fought Wladimir Kiltschko after 3 back to back training camps. It was Joshua who not only breached the defenses of the strike back of the Kiltschko reign, Joshua blasted out the Kiltschko reign.

And then there on after this point, nobody can deny that Joshua in conduct and attitude was Champion 'Joshua took on all comers, and even fought fights people advised him not to take but he did twice'.

That is greatness, people need to understand 'That Fury, Wilder, Joshua they have all played their part in this era'. All these fighters have produced catalytic moments within Heavyweight division 'Moments, fights and performances that no serious honest boxing fan and historian can deny or devalue'.

The game and the battle is still on going, the moves are still being made etc.

I’m not reading 16 paragraphs of Aj defending nonsense. To summarize though, He was never all that good, this was a weak era for heavyweights and the only one that is likely elite and should he mentioned among past elite heavyweights is fury.