Illegal sites damaging boxing .

[Roadblock]

Fair point but the way I see it as well is many people love football here in the United Kingdom and worldwide and some are prepared to pay £ 15- 20 a week for lower league standard and up to £45 or even more for higher up. Some pay season tickets which cost over £ 600 or even more. Compare that to boxing where a top fight can be no more than £ 27 give or take and these fights dont happen often.

For me boxing as a sport is purer than football eg humans have been doing it since time evolved and is tied into nature and survival of the fittest. Deserves to get more recognition and be a very popular sport like it use to be before greed and the varying boxing organisations diluted it somewhat over the years. Hopefully one day corruption can be largely weeded out and we start seeing the big fights being made more often.

Thats the thing, how do you bring more eyes to the sport, lower the prices so its highly affordable for the lower classes like $10/20 dollars, the lower class happen to be the biggest demographic of fight fans, the price setters are thinking lets ream the champagne crowd and shut the beer drinkers out, they are out of touch to the rules that if you want to bring in crowds you gotta discount, these people setting prices are out of touch to the idea of bringing in more viewers, one does that through price.

[QueensburyRules]

I've read a few times by people in the industry that illegal internet streams are damaging the sport. Personally would never view these in a sport I love so much. Fighters get a big cut and less money in the pot means less likelihood of the top fights being made as per news reports. Deontay Wilder sums it up best :

"Fighters risk their lives for other’s entertainment,” and that they deserve big pay-per-view numbers that equal big paydays. “Stop f*****g stealing pay-per-views,” is Wilder’s message to the fans.

Source: Deontay Wilder: “Stop Stealing The F*****g Pay-Per-Views!” - Boxing News 24/7 (https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-new...r-views/260558)

From another source

"Sports executive Stephen Espinoza says big fights aren’t getting made because of the PPV piracy from fans, who choose not to purchase pay-per-view fights and turn to illegal avenues to see the bouts for free."

- - The fact that boxing is a non transparent sport with regards to officiating and contracts that result in different fight conditions in every bout making boxing as a skullduggery of riches for to the organizers who pay fighters according to their worth.

Most boxers seem to have part time jobs to pay the bills. The higher ranked fighters can afford to make it a full time business when aligned with an analogous promoter making the fight cards.

Are NFL/MLB/NBA games illegally streamed? Possibly with great difficulty, but not enough to put a dent in their finances.

In short, boxing's woes are self created, shoot yourself in the foot problems that won't be fixed anytime soon.

[Richard]

- - The fact that boxing is a non transparent sport with

In short, boxing's woes are self created, shoot yourself in the foot problems that won't be fixed anytime soon.

I read a while back that the only way to clean the sport up and make the big fights happen regularly is to have a overiding framework where somebody/ organisation is in charge. Like in football it's FIFA but boxing doesn't really have that only a load of different organizations eg WBC ,WBA all often vying to protect their own financial interests. It's ultimately the fans I feel that will force the issue. Start boycotting some fights and things may change . Iam personally annoyed with Tyson Fury for one. I've always been a huge fan of his especially after some of the fights he has given the fans eg the first Wilder fight but he should of cut Uysk some slack and given a majority percentage in the rematch to Uysk if Oleksandr won which would of most likely allowed the fight to happen .

[QueensburyRules]

I read a while back that the only way to clean the sport up and make the big fights happen regularly is to have a overiding framework where somebody/ organisation is in charge. Like in football it's FIFA but boxing doesn't really have that only a load of different organizations eg WBC ,WBA all often vying to protect their own financial interests. It's ultimately the fans I feel that will force the issue. Start boycotting some fights and things may change . Iam personally annoyed with Tyson Fury for one. I've always been a huge fan of his especially after some of the fights he has given the fans eg the first Wilder fight but he should of cut Uysk some slack and given a majority percentage in the rematch to Uysk if Oleksandr won which would of most likely allowed the fight to happen .

- - Yeah, Blubbered Fury has managed to become a Poster Boy for everything that's wrong with boxing.

[Butt stuff]

Lower PPV prices so that the worker can afford them and there will be big decline in pirate streams, high prices is what create and propagates piracy, if PPV was say $20 pretty much all fans would buy the smooth 4k PPV.

This is the truth. PPV in the UK has historically been much cheaper (creeping up in recent years) but they still generate many tens of millions – and we're a small island. Drop the prices, make it accessible to more people and grow the sport. There's too much narrow-minded and greedy, corrupt people in boxing for it to thrive.

[BoxingParadigm]

Clear victim mentality at play here. It's clear they're overcharging for fights, charge less per fight & make the fighters fight more often to equall the annual salary the fighters desire. With more frequent fights you'll be able to create better storylines, rivalries & legacies which all play into an increase of demand for boxing. But the sport is corrupt and for a while now the boxers have become just as greedy as the promoters, managersand advisers, making everything more difficult.

[Rockin']

for a while now the boxers have become just as greedy as the promoters, managersand advisers, making everything more difficult.

The fighters deserve every penny that they can get, and then some...................Rockin'X

[ProblemChild_JakePaul]

Totally a 2-way street and the promotors/managers are dead weight in this situation.

Give the fans fair PPV prices. Trying to **** them over and then crying foul when they don't go along with it is BS.

[Richard]

Totally a 2-way street and the promotors/managers are dead weight in this situation.

Give the fans fair PPV prices. Trying to **** them over and then crying foul when they don't go along with it is BS.

Some fans like in any sport will always want a freebie and will not even be prepared to pay pay per view even if prices are fair. Whenever in the past I've been short of cash as a student for example I would tune into the radio and listen to it there like the boxing fans of old. For me I wouldn't propagate a wrong by adding to it eg watching illegal streams. Adapt or listen to it via other means legally. Boxing needs it's fans or the sport will die.

I accept some of your points though. Don King for one was notorious for screwing Mike Tyson over with unfair deals where he took a unhealthy share of his purse.

[STREET CLEANER]

There are a lot of fights that should not be on ppv and the prices have been outrageous. If they give the fights that people want they will buy, there will always be illegal streams but too many fights are on paid platforms.

They have ruined the business themselves and have caused most of this.