Comments Thread For: Catterall Promoter Says Negotiations for Prograis Fight 'Look Good'

[Sid-Knee]

It makes sense for Prograis and Catterall to get it done ASAP, because Regis is 33 and wants to get as many lucrative fights as possible now that he has the leverage of being the WBC champion, and Catterall has been inactive for a year and should strike while he has the little bit of name value carried over from the Taylor fight.

Oh i know why you want this fight straight away. Don't worry, i know.

[Rebelrbg]

Oh i know why you want this fight straight away. Don't worry, i know.

Please Sid, enlighten me?

[Sid-Knee]

Please Sid, enlighten me?

Have you not seen the reasons for our losses? It's been through inactivity or being sabotaged another way like Draining by contract or giving little time to train. Catterall has already been out for 13 months. It will be a year and a half by the time the fight comes round. Catterall has no chance under these conditions. Don't pretend you don't see it. All your fighters are on this game and have been for years. They won't take fights unless they're inactive or have some other condition put on them before going into the ring. Do you want me to list all the fights en masse over the years?

You can't win fights against us otherwise. And people like you despise it. So, you go this route and hope people fall for the perception and not actually see what is at hand here. The Mexicans have been forced to do the same.

[Rebelrbg]

Have you not seen the reasons for our losses? It's been through inactivity or being sabotaged another way like Draining by contract or giving little time to train. Catterall has already been out for 13 months. It will be a year and a half by the time the fight comes round. Catterall has no chance under these conditions. Don't pretend you don't see it. All your fighters are on this game and have been for years. They won't take fights unless they're inactive or have some other condition put on them before going into the ring. Do you want me to list all the fights en masse over the years?

You can't win fights against us otherwise. And people like you despise it. So, you go this route and hope people fall for the perception and not actually see what is at hand here. The Mexicans have been forced to do the same.

Hilarious!!! So, everyone is supposed to wait until British fighters have endless domestic tune ups and declare themselves ready before fighting them? Lol, stop it before you start.

[maguirre]

We'll see how Prograis would crack that elusive style of Catterall Taylor wasn't able to crack.

[El Más Loco]

Is this serious???? They're looking to put Catterall in the ring with Prograis straight away without getting sharp with a warm up fight after being out for so long? What????

Eddie has been on a campaign of insanity by putting all his British fighters in a ring against active fighters while his own guys are badly inactive. This gives a stacked deck to the opposition and makes winning a small probability. Now Shalom wants to do the same?

What the actual f3ck is going on in British boxing? has Covid damaged brains to where logic has been thrown out of the window? Do they not look at fights over the past 3 years or so and not realise?

Get these people out of this sport now before they absolutely destroy it from top to bottom. Catterall won't win under those conditions. It stands to reason. No one is winning under such conditions. It's why Mexicans and Americans are searching for these kind of opponents all the time. They know what fruit it bares.

95% of all UK boxers have ALWAYS been easy pickings for everyone on the Western Hemisphere. "Inactive" or not.

[Sid-Knee]

Hilarious!!! So, everyone is supposed to wait until British fighters have endless domestic tune ups and declare themselves ready before fighting them? Lol, stop it before you start.

Tank: Fights smaller opponents in Garcia and Santa Cruz. Fights a shot Gamboa. Fights bums in Cruz and Romero at LW. Pulls a scam in fighting a nobody at 140 in Barrios for a regular title even though Barrios shouldn't have that regular title as he lost the fight to Akhmedov. So that's a fighter coming from a loss. Has refused to fight any of the top fighters in his weight class for years. He's ducked and dived. However, with Ryan moving up because he can't make 135 any more, he's decided now is the time to fight to drain him to stack the deck. Then, to make sure he couldn't compete, he's put in a hydration clause.

Wilder: Fought Fury after being out for 3 years even though nobody was asking for the fight. The fights people wanted were active and fresh in AJ and Whyte for more money. Wilder however, didn't. Fury wins but they rip him off on the cards. He's fought nothing but bums. He's ducked everyone out there. The first fight with Ortiz had him with only 2 rounds in 15 months. But they still needed to pull out the stops and have the doctor protect him on Haymon's orders which is wide spread at PBC with the absolute corruption. Hell, they even kept a shot Helenius out of the ring to make sure it benefitted Wilder. They chose not to keep him active and build on his wins over Fatty. Kept Whyte from getting his rightful shot and set up an illegal scam to f3ck him over by calling for a mandatory shot in only 2 weeks away from fight night. They did this by telling Molina and Breazeal in advance to train for that night. Whyte wasn't going to have a week training camp and then fly over to acclimatise for the week leading up to fight night. Breazeal only had one fight in 18 months to make sure he was as little trouble as possible to again protect the coward Wilder by the time the fight came round.

Jose Ramirez: In knowing Josh Taylor had only 1 round of action in 19 months he had no problem in signing the fight. I again predicted this would happen. Ramirez always causes problems when it's against an opponent he doesn't want to fight. But not this time. Arum was even in on it as he wanted Ramirez as undisputed so set up the judges AND the ref to protect Ramirez. Ramirez was clearly beaten but the judges had the KD's being the deciding factor. I had Taylor winning 10 of the 12 rounds. The ref protected him after the KD's by giving him time to recover. It was too obvious what was at play. Go and watch it and laugh at the obvious corruption.
Postal had been out for 16 months and got the fight. But wait, he actually beat Ramirez and got ripped off.

Teo Lopez: Ducking anyone who is active even though they're not world class. But he wants to fight a superior fighter to all of them in Taylor? Of course he does. He's struggling with the weight, will have been out of the ring for 16 months, and is coming from a lopsided defeat to Catterall. A robbery that was on a card belonging to none other than Bob Arum. A promoter who rips off anyone who beats his fighters. It's consistent. Then you have the Lomachenko "Win". A fight that was actually a draw has Lopez winning by large scores. Impossibly large scores. He draws at best in his last fight against Martin who comes in at short notice. But guess what, Lopez gets the win again.

Gary Antuanne Russell. Fights Postal coming from a robbery loss to Ramirez, but is coming from being out for a whopping 18 months. Still the ref stopping it was bullshlt. Fights Barthelemy next and... Well, you know what happened there too.

Jermall Charlo: Fights Chenko coming from a loss. Ducks everyone out there in hilarious fashion while weirdo's pretend otherwise as they're extremists. Loses to a "Eurobum" in Korobov who comes in at a weeks notice but gets beaten and needs a robbery. Fights his usual bums while biding his time for opponents that come under certain conditions.

Joe Smith Jr: Fights Vlasov who has been out for 17 months, gets dominated, but again gets the usual robbery. Fights a shot Alvarez who has had one fight in 17 months.

Spence: Fights a Kell Brook who is coming from a stoppage loss at Middle and has to boil down to a weight he was already struggling with. Fights a LW in Mikey. Fights Porter but gets the robbery. Refuses to fight Crawford for years now. He's waiting for him to age, which is a trick Americans have been pulling for decades. Is fighting Thurman who is "Mandatory" through corruption which won't even be at welter. You know, the weight he was going to supposedly fight Crawford at? Haha. No, it will be at LM. By the time they get into the ring, Thurman will not have had a win of merit for 6 years. Yes, you read that right. 6. Years.

Vergil Ortiz: Fights Kava after being out for a year. Will be fighting Stanionis after being out for a year. Fought a shot Hooker who had been out for 15 months.

Ryan Garcia: Fought a Luke Campbell after being out for 17 months and coming from a loss. Ducked fortuna until he was beaten by Diaz and had a single round in 12 months.

Do you get the picture? Do you want me to list the mass of robberies as well?

I know what you're doing. I know what the Mexicans are doing too. But do you see Americans and Mexicans being the ones who are out for so long or any other conditions being attached before taking dangerous fights? No, you don't. The few that have, have lost. But it was intentional fore some of them as the winner would be used for other purposes.

[Sid-Knee]

95% of all UK boxers have ALWAYS been easy pickings for everyone on the Western Hemisphere. "Inactive" or not.

That's not what the facts say. I've given you plenty of them and made you look the imbecile you actually are. How many times have i had you deflect and run away now? Haha. But please tell me which fighters who were beaten didn't have disadvantages against them? Should be easy considering we're "Easy pickings". Go on, answer. No, wait, You'll deflect instead and spout madness when being direct would be the way to go. Then you run. Prove me wrong.

We have the better collective wins for a reason. But can you list Mexican wins without any conditions or robberies being at play? Go on, give it a try. You're the punch bag of the boxing world. Always have been. Guess what. you always will be. I can name plenty of Mexican loses on a level playing field. Hell, i can name plenty of loses where you had the advantage but still lost. But could you do the same with us?

Just sit back and watch Mexicans humiliate themselves as they go after fight after fight with their special conditions. That's cowardly to the core. Must sting knowing that it's true what they're doing. But don't worry, you're Mexican. Humiliating yourself is natural. Either that or people like me will do so and force you to run when the facts stack up against you on every subject on every level.

[Rebelrbg]

Tank: Fights smaller opponents in Garcia and Santa Cruz. Fights a shot Gamboa. Fights bums in Cruz and Romero at LW. Pulls a scam in fighting a nobody at 140 in Barrios for a regular title even though Barrios shouldn't have that regular title as he lost the fight to Akhmedov. So that's a fighter coming from a loss. Has refused to fight any of the top fighters in his weight class for years. He's ducked and dived. However, with Ryan moving up because he can't make 135 any more, he's decided now is the time to fight to drain him to stack the deck. Then, to make sure he couldn't compete, he's put in a hydration clause.

Wilder: Fought Fury after being out for 3 years even though nobody was asking for the fight. The fights people wanted were active and fresh in AJ and Whyte for more money. Wilder however, didn't. Fury wins but they rip him off on the cards. He's fought nothing but bums. He's ducked everyone out there. The first fight with Ortiz had him with only 2 rounds in 15 months. But they still needed to pull out the stops and have the doctor protect him on Haymon's orders which is wide spread at PBC with the absolute corruption. Hell, they even kept a shot Helenius out of the ring to make sure it benefitted Wilder. They chose not to keep him active and build on his wins over Fatty. Kept Whyte from getting his rightful shot and set up an illegal scam to f3ck him over by calling for a mandatory shot in only 2 weeks away from fight night. They did this by telling Molina and Breazeal in advance to train for that night. Whyte wasn't going to have a week training camp and then fly over to acclimatise for the week leading up to fight night. Breazeal only had one fight in 18 months to make sure he was as little trouble as possible to again protect the coward Wilder by the time the fight came round.

Jose Ramirez: In knowing Josh Taylor had only 1 round of action in 19 months he had no problem in signing the fight. I again predicted this would happen. Ramirez always causes problems when it's against an opponent he doesn't want to fight. But not this time. Arum was even in on it as he wanted Ramirez as undisputed so set up the judges AND the ref to protect Ramirez. Ramirez was clearly beaten but the judges had the KD's being the deciding factor. I had Taylor winning 10 of the 12 rounds. The ref protected him after the KD's by giving him time to recover. It was too obvious what was at play. Go and watch it and laugh at the obvious corruption.
Postal had been out for 16 months and got the fight. But wait, he actually beat Ramirez and got ripped off.

Teo Lopez: Ducking anyone who is active even though they're not world class. But he wants to fight a superior fighter to all of them in Taylor? Of course he does. He's struggling with the weight, will have been out of the ring for 16 months, and is coming from a lopsided defeat to Catterall. A robbery that was on a card belonging to none other than Bob Arum. A promoter who rips off anyone who beats his fighters. It's consistent. Then you have the Lomachenko "Win". A fight that was actually a draw has Lopez winning by large scores. Impossibly large scores. He draws at best in his last fight against Martin who comes in at short notice. But guess what, Lopez gets the win again.

Gary Antuanne Russell. Fights Postal coming from a robbery loss to Ramirez, but is coming from being out for a whopping 18 months. Still the ref stopping it was bullshlt. Fights Barthelemy next and... Well, you know what happened there too.

Jermall Charlo: Fights Chenko coming from a loss. Ducks everyone out there in hilarious fashion while weirdo's pretend otherwise as they're extremists. Loses to a "Eurobum" in Korobov who comes in at a weeks notice but gets beaten and needs a robbery. Fights his usual bums while biding his time for opponents that come under certain conditions.

Joe Smith Jr: Fights Vlasov who has been out for 17 months, gets dominated, but again gets the usual robbery. Fights a shot Alvarez who has had one fight in 17 months.

Spence: Fights a Kell Brook who is coming from a stoppage loss at Middle and has to boil down to a weight he was already struggling with. Fights a LW in Mikey. Fights Porter but gets the robbery. Refuses to fight Crawford for years now. He's waiting for him to age, which is a trick Americans have been pulling for decades. Is fighting Thurman who is "Mandatory" through corruption which won't even be at welter. You know, the weight he was going to supposedly fight Crawford at? Haha. No, it will be at LM. By the time they get into the ring, Thurman will not have had a win of merit for 6 years. Yes, you read that right. 6. Years.

Vergil Ortiz: Fights Kava after being out for a year. Will be fighting Stanionis after being out for a year. Fought a shot Hooker who had been out for 15 months.

Ryan Garcia: Fought a Luke Campbell after being out for 17 months and coming from a loss. Ducked fortuna until he was beaten by Diaz and had a single round in 12 months.

Do you get the picture? Do you want me to list the mass of robberies as well?

I know what you're doing. I know what the Mexicans are doing too. But do you see Americans and Mexicans being the ones who are out for so long or any other conditions being attached before taking dangerous fights? No, you don't. The few that have, have lost. But it was intentional fore some of them as the winner would be used for other purposes.

I knew you would come with jokes. You thought that you wouldn't get a response because you wrote a book full nonsense and nothing

Leo and Luis Garcia were champions in their divisions and on fight night, clearly bigger than Tank in the ring. KO. Rolly was undefeated, much bigger and supposedly much stronger. KO. Barrios was huge, undefeated, and held the interim title at 140. KO. That was Tank's only fight at 140, and afterward he said that 135 is his natural weight class, and has never fought at 140 again.

Ryan has been asking for Tank for years, and De la Hoya wouldn't let him have the fight. After his Fortuna fight, he asked for Tank again and said that he would only fight at 140. Tank has NEVER asked for Garcia and stated that his weight class is 135. Ryan ACCEPTED the fight at 136 with the rehydration clause because he WANTS Tank, Tank doesn't NEED Ryan. See the difference.

I will be back with the rest, this is too much for one post while working.

[Sid-Knee]

I knew you would come with jokes. You thought that you wouldn't get a response because you wrote a book full nonsense and nothing

Leo and Luis Garcia were champions in their divisions and on fight night, clearly bigger than Tank in the ring. KO. Rolly was undefeated, much bigger and supposedly much stronger. KO. Barrios was huge, undefeated, and held the interim title at 140. KO. That was Tank's only fight at 140, and afterward he said that 135 is his natural weight class, and has never fought at 140 again.

Ryan has been asking for Tank for years, and De la Hoya wouldn't let him have the fight. After his Fortuna fight, he asked for Tank again and said that he would only fight at 140. Tank has NEVER asked for Garcia and stated that his weight class is 135. Ryan ACCEPTED the fight at 136 with the rehydration clause because he WANTS Tank, Tank doesn't NEED Ryan. See the difference.

I will be back with the rest, this is too much for one post while working.

This is only a small part of all the intentions going on in American boxing. As you can see, the post was quite big as is. I just wanted you to get an understanding and make my point.

I'm not the one coming with nonsense and excuses. You are. Your comments literally make no sense. It's basically saying "Lennox Lewis wasn't ripped off in the first Holyfield fight because Evander has legs, has lots of money and is a champion" You can't give a rational reply to facts so just go for the usual madness like you do. Let's break it down...

Leo wasn't bigger than Tank. Stop with the ******ity. You sound like the Mexicans when claiming Khan was the bigger fighter against Canelo because he was "Taller". Haha. Tank is the much thicker set guy.

Garcia was a champion in a lower weigh class. Just the way Tank likes it. He needs to always have a stacked deck otherwise he'll duck you like he has with all the top fighters for years. You've clearly forgotten his comments on his own Twitter account regarding the fight with Loma way back after Floyd said he was setting up the fight. He said, and i quote "You're just trying to get me beat".

Rolly was an unskilled bum who had beaten absolutely nobody. Not even a fringe level win. But he does have a robbery decision over Marinez. Funny thing is, he was clearly beating Tank at the time of stoppage. Now he's sabotaged Garcia otherwise the fight wouldn't happen. It's consistent, regardless of your delusions and not wanting to face up to the facts.

Barrios wasn't huge. Nor was he undefeated either. I've told you he got a robbery over Akhmedov. He was a decent fringe level fighter. Nothing more. Just another cherry pick. It seems what little Barrios did have is over. He won't be making any waves in boxing. He'll just be used as a stepping stone and nothing more.

All the top fighters need each other. Making claims like "He doesn't need him" is just a desperate excuse when logic is not there for you. Tank has been getting it in the neck for years for ducking. If he wasn't scared, why would he want people thinking this of him? Why wouldn't he take them all on, beat them at their best, pick up a mass of money, and all of the titles? Huh? He wants to be given credit. That's what all fighters and athletes want. The only reason they turn it down, is because they don't believe they can win. So they continue with the con plan and make fools of themselves. You know, like claiming to be the real champion when Haney is in fact, undisputed? He pays sanctioning fees for a garbage, worthless trinket. Yeah, he cares about titles. He wouldn't carry that thing if he didn't. He just doesn't believe he can win the fights to get the real ones. That's on him. I don't care about your fantasies and delusions. Facts speak out. Delusions get laughed at.

Lets' hope when you come back you can give me a laugh when making excuses to why the US and Mexico intentionally fight a mass of opponents that have been out of the ring too long which was the initial point. Why you duck fighters when they're peak and ready to go. Why you have a mass of robberies. No other country has this. Just the two of you over there.