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  • Dakuwaqa
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    #11
    Originally posted by The Madison

    am i meant to be impressed with that list?
    You think MW is better? 41 year old GGG and who else? Charlo who hasn’t fought in 2 years. Liam Smith? 50 year old Lara?

    LOL

    Spence and Crawford are top 10 p4p and future HOFs

    Ortiz and Ennis could very well be on the P4P lists in a couple of years

    Stanionis, Butaev and Ugas are very good and would beat most fighters who aren’t at the very top of the sport.

    Even Avanseyan is a solid fighter

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      #12
      There are some new fringe guys like Yeleussinov that could be interesting. But he is old already and he is not getting any bigger fights.

      But overall this division sucks. Ennis, who just struggled with nobody, is somehow seen as a top contender.

      At least we will get Ortiz - Stanionis.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Dakuwaqa

        You think MW is better? 41 year old GGG and who else? Charlo who hasn’t fought in 2 years. Liam Smith? 50 year old Lara?

        LOL

        Spence and Crawford are top 10 p4p and future HOFs

        Ortiz and Ennis could very well be on the P4P lists in a couple of years

        Stanionis, Butaev and Ugas are very good and would beat most fighters who aren’t at the very top of the sport.

        Even Avanseyan is a solid fighter



        spence and crawford wont fight each other, you realize how ***ing ****** that is. What if DLH and Trinidad never fought each other and just talked about it for 10 years instead. Crawford is a free agent now so they dont have that excuse. Even HBO-Showtime exclusive fighters fought each other with Tyson-Lewis and Floyd-Pac. boxing is a joke now.

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          #14
          Originally posted by elfag




          spence and crawford wont fight each other, you realize how ***ing ****** that is. What if DLH and Trinidad never fought each other and just talked about it for 10 years instead. Crawford is a free agent now so they dont have that excuse. Even HBO-Showtime exclusive fighters fought each other with Tyson-Lewis and Floyd-Pac. boxing is a joke now.
          I’ve already said the matchmaking is poor

          I was specifically talking about the talent in the division and the supposed ‘lack of depth’

          Pipe down

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            #15
            its the glamour division of fantasy fights, u have the top p4p stars eyeballing each other with menace, then u have the most hyped guy ever to lace them up in boots & mix in the rest of em, its dynamite

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              #16
              BTW; it is pretty much overrated division even historically.

              At 154 top dogs have always fought each other.

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                #17
                WW is popular because it’s where the fighters turn from insects into mammals.

                160 is when you start to see some adult humans

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                  BTW; it is pretty much overrated division even historically.

                  At 154 top dogs have always fought each other.
                  Not exactly true. You had Lara who held a WBA title for 2.5 years but never unified with the Charlo twins, who had their respective titles, even when they no longer shared the same trainer. Which left a big question mark who would have won had they fought, which was unfortunate when fights were supposed to be easy to make under one roof.

                  It's also a division full of fighters with inconsistent performances like Williams, Hurd, Harrison, Trout, Lara, etc. It's a weak division with no big names in it led by Charlo who had to remach with names like Harrison and Castano.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ßykeryder

                    Not exactly true. You had Lara who held a WBA title for 2.5 years but never unified with the Charlo twins, who had their respective titles, even when they no longer shared the same trainer. Which left a big question mark who would have won had they fought, which was unfortunate when fights were supposed to be easy to make under one roof.

                    It's also a division full of fighters with inconsistent performances like Williams, Hurd, Harrison, Trout, Lara, etc. It's a weak division with no big names in it led by Charlo who had to remach with names like Harrison and Castano.
                    I'm not even sure if Harrison or Castano would beat Gausha or Lubin. It's a messy division with lots of question marks in it. But there are lots of fights that could be made in the division which I probably won't like missing. Gausha vs Harrison, Gausha vs Castano, Lubin vs Castano, Lubin vs Harrison, Williams vs Castano, Lubin vs Williams, etc. And I don't know why these guys are being made to fight once a year when they can add pizazz in undercard fights.

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                    • elfag
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Dakuwaqa

                      I’ve already said the matchmaking is poor

                      I was specifically talking about the talent in the division and the supposed ‘lack of depth’

                      Pipe down


                      You better check your tone chief

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