Usyk on film lying right here!

[Kzbox]

is usyk only worth 30% first fight?

i would say 30 - 40 is fair yes but even as undisputed you really think Usyk is worth 70 - 30 nobody cared about Usyk before the Joshua fight now everybodys loving him lets see if that translate to sales as i said lets see how Usyk does on his own against a mediocre name then we can talk about it.

[Smash]

Thats just dumb though why even have a market value .

i didnt realise boxers had market values, who makes these values up? themselves?

[Kzbox]

i didnt realise boxers had market values, who makes these values up? themselves?

Based on ticket sales/income obv thats why you have "faces of boxing" < these people make the most money if you want to learn more the basics are online though.

[Smash]

i would say 30 - 40 is fair yes but even as undisputed you really think Usyk is worth 70 - 30 nobody cared about Usyk before the Joshua fight now everybodys loving him lets see if that translate to sales as i said lets see how Usyk does on his own against a mediocre name then we can talk about it.

usyk is only worth 70% if he wins on those terms, he will be undisputed heavy champ, undefeated beat joshua twice fury etc, thats a big fish, just because he doesnt meet your market valuation doesnt make it dumb

[Kzbox]

usyk is only worth 70% if he wins on those terms, he will be undisputed heavy champ, undefeated beat joshua twice fury etc, thats a big fish, just because he doesnt meet your market valuation doesnt make it dumb

No he isn't value isn't based on achievements thats why Crawford can't sell out his own living room listen you can live in lala land and just use the "it's business" when it's a boxer you like i don't like how we all involved in the money/business side and it holding up fights but that's what boxing is now and what most fighters do.

Usyk was taking the piss asking for 70 - 30 in the rematch 60 - 40 i would more understand but come on man lmao you can keep on with Usyk as i say make sure you buy the tickets for his fights cuz he sure needs it. I actually like Usyk that's the thing he's a decent guy and a brilliant boxer but all you ****riders are turning me against him a bit.

[Smash]

No he isn't value isn't based on achievements thats why Crawford can't sell out his own living room listen you can live in lala land and just use the "it's business" when it's a boxer you like i don't like how we all involved in the money/business side and it holding up fights but that's what boxing is now and what most fighters do.

Usyk was taking the piss asking for 70 - 30 in the rematch 60 - 40 i would more understand but come on man lmao you can keep on with Usyk as i say make sure you buy the tickets for his fights cuz he sure needs it. I actually like Usyk that's the thing he's a decent guy and a brilliant boxer but all you ****riders are turning me against him a bit.

there u said it, 60/40, thats more fair, if fury had offered the fair deal in the first place i dont think we would have the issue, but he didnt, so thats on greedy belly imo

[James Hunt]

Keep ****riding ducker's ****.

[Smash]

i would say 30 - 40 is fair yes.

so even by your market valuations usyk has to take the low end of the valuation in this fight, that doesnt sound fair to me, that sounds greedy

[Kzbox]

there u said it, 60/40, thats more fair, if fury had offered the fair deal in the first place i dont think we would have the issue, but he didnt, so thats on greedy belly imo

As far as i know Usyk is the one who withdrew from negotiations did Fury try hit him back with the counter or say straight no? These are the answers nobody knows right now to say but 70/30 was dumb from Usyks behalf.

[Smash]

but 70/30 was dumb from Usyks behalf.

70/30 was dumb from furys behalf

usyk backed himself to make it up in the rematch so he would take 30%x2 if as expected he lost, fury would easily beat the MW so he would get 70%x2 but he wouldnt do it, fury started the crap with his lowball and usky responded with his lowball to the loser, which could have been him, so he could be lowballing himself