Oscar beats them all and it wouldn't be that tough either.
Ppl forget how great De La Hoya was especially at LW.
Shakur and Haney have a chance because of their movement, its Whittaker all over again, Oscar had one minor fault his footspeed can be a little slow as he is often planted and upright, but if Shakur and Haney have a weakness anywhere Oscar would find it, I don't think the LWs today's have seasoned they need to fight some big fights and their best is a year or two away.
I agree. Oscar De La Hoya beat a prime Genaro Hernandez. Chicanito Hernandez (RIP) was better than Herring, Valdez, and Conceicao.
It's quite impressive considering that De La Hoya was 22 years old when he stopped an undefeated Genaro Hernandez (33-0-1).
Kinda odd that people keep comparing Ryan to Oscar, when De La Hoya had way better technical skills. He also had quite the chin considering he tanked shots from power punchers from 147-154 such as Quartey, Trinidad, Vargas and Mosley X2.
Which in my opinion at least, he arguably beat most of them as I scored it 116-114 in Oscar's favor against Tito despite cruising the last rounds and thought he had won the rematch against Mosley who then had admitted taking steroids from BALCO (Victor Conte) such as IPO.
DLH was a big Lightweight with power and speed and really good countering, timing and combination punching. Also had great footwork. For his size, you would expect him to be a slow plodding, face-first Mexican brawler. But he was far from that.
And i’m sorry, but Haney? Did anyone see him almost die vs an old Linares? Dude also made Gamboa look way fresher than he is.
There really was no style that was especially good against prime DLH. IMO he beat all Trinidad, Mosley, and Whitaker.
Shakur and Haney have a chance because of their movement, its Whittaker all over again, Oscar had one minor fault his footspeed can be a little slow as he is often planted and upright, but if Shakur and Haney have a weakness anywhere Oscar would find it, I don't think the LWs today's have seasoned they need to fight some big fights and their best is a year or two away.
Neither Haney or Stevenson come remotely close to moving like Whitaker. No one really does.
Haney first needs to dominate and destroy at least one top opponent for real. None of that jabbing/hugging scared BS. Go out there and dominate with big combinations.
There’s a reason why Haney is the undisputed champion but is not yet in The Ring top 10 P4P. Quite possibly the first ever undisputed champion who isn’t considered a top 10 P4P fighter.
This dude really struggled with an old, past prime Linares who was KO’ed before and after Haney. And we’re really going to sit here and put him in the same sentence as Whitaker?
Neither Haney or Stevenson come remotely close to moving like Whitaker. No one really does.
Haney first needs to dominate and destroy at least one top opponent for real. None of that jabbing/hugging scared BS. Go out there and dominate with big combinations.
There’s a reason why Haney is the undisputed champion but is not yet in The Ring top 10 P4P. Quite possibly the first ever undisputed champion who isn’t considered a top 10 P4P fighter.
This dude really struggled with an old, past prime Linares who was KO’ed before and after Haney. And we’re really going to sit here and put him in the same sentence as Whitaker?
As I said they are not seasoned and will not be at their peak for a few more years, youre talking like they are at their career best right now, I don't think they close to it yet, we cant even tell if they a got a chin and can hang in a dog fight, right now they are too green to be mentioned with greats in there prime, movement and slide with black fighters is same same but different, Whittaker is different than Floyd but they both sugar, that's what Im talking about with movement and it gave Oscar more trouble than any other style.
As I said they are not seasoned and will not be at their peak for a few more years, youre talking like they are at their career best right now, I don't think they close to it yet, we cant even tell if they a got a chin and can hang in a dog fight, right now they are too green to be mentioned with greats in there prime, movement and slide with black fighters is same same but different, Whittaker is different than Floyd but they both sugar, that's what Im talking about with movement and it gave Oscar more trouble than any other style.
- - Dummy Duva had Peashooter walking into JLRamirez left hook to the liver all night, hanging on and low blowing JL trying to survive the fight.
Peashooter had physical talents greater than his mental wannabe clown limitations could cope with. That's why Duva tapped the superior talent of Meldrick Taylor to challenge JC Chavez, and they almost pulled the upset save Dummy Duva melting at the exact time Taylor needed his best judgement.
- - Dummy Duva had Peashooter walking into JLRamirez left hook to the liver all night, hanging on and low blowing JL trying to survive the fight.
Peashooter had physical talents greater than his mental wannabe clown limitations could cope with. That's why Duva tapped the superior talent of Meldrick Taylor to challenge JC Chavez, and they almost pulled the upset save Dummy Duva melting at the exact time Taylor needed his best judgement.
Yer welcome.
I put your post into chatgpg with the following prompt, rewrite so a child can understand . This is what it gave me lol.
Once there was a boxer named Peashooter who was not very smart but was very good at fighting. He fought against another boxer named JLRamirez, who hit him really hard in the side of his body all night. Peashooter tried to stay in the fight by holding on to JLRamirez and hitting him below the belt, but it was hard for him to win.
Peashooter's coach, Dummy Duva, realized that Peashooter wasn't smart enough to win big fights, so he decided to find a smarter boxer with great talent named Meldrick Taylor to fight against a champion named JC Chavez. They almost won, but Dummy Duva made a mistake at the most important time, and they lost.
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