Given Floyd’s high boxing IQ - I think we can all agree, he would adapt and beat any top 5 WW out there

[Hustle]

- - l'l floydy wanted non standard Olympic drug testing as the last agreement of the arduous attempt to make the first fight.

l'l feller booked the date and MGM venue that Manny agreed to as well as all other conditions but for drug testing beyond standard boxing drug testing. That led to negotiations of cut off days from drug testing which sure ain't Olympic drug testing which is never negotiated. The facts after the l'l floydy farce then have proven that TBE TUE had the USADA and Vegas Commish in his pocket for the whole of his career at MGM where some 40% of his fights took place.

Now that you're sorted, it'll be in one ear and out the other with you as you continue to butcher boxing history beyond the pale...only in today's boxing, folks...

Here we go deflecting.

The man said Floyd would never agree to 50/50. I proved that he did accept 50/50 and here you go deflecting.

Did Floyd accept 50/50? yes

Did Manny turn down random drug testing? Yes

Manny wanted a cutoff date and Floyd said no.

Bottom line once Manny accepted random drug testing the fight happened.

These are facts. Not opinions

[Carpe Diem]

Head of head. Crawford’s style is a bad match up for him. Floyd’s best wins are big names on their way down or on their way up. No way he takes a fight with a prime Crawford at any time during his career.

****ing hilarious. Where did you come up with that bull****? What’s so unique about Crawford’s style that would’ve made it difficult for Floyd to deal with? Are you implying that Dud Crawford would’ve been able to outbox him?

[Roadblock]

So what's real is, what natural all time great welterweight did Floyd beat in their prime.

It's a statement you can't refute, and a question you want to avoid.

Furthermore, it's the basis by which the men are separated from the boys.

These threads keep resurfacing because Floyd has been retired for years now, yet Floyd boys are still insecure about where Floyd stacks up against the top 5 all time great welterweights. Nobody really bothers to do this with anybody else because the tippy top tier guys fought and beat atg's and hof's in their prime.

Except Floyd.

It's not our fault that after Hatton, Floyd thought he was top 5 at welterweight, and cherrypicked to the finish line.

When Floyd beat Manny who did you pick to win the fight, there is your flip-flopping cherry-pick narrative on display lol.

When you talk cherry pick you have to reference it against other resumes from the same time, you also have to reference fighters along the same timeline as their opponent, do you understand the logic, do you understand that your emotional crybaby BS will always be knocked out by logic.

Truth is youre a mental midget throwing paper darts that even Manny would be embarrassed by the BS you spin.

[Roadblock]

Here we go deflecting.

The man said Floyd would never agree to 50/50. I proved that he did accept 50/50 and here you go deflecting.

Did Floyd accept 50/50? yes

Did Manny turn down random drug testing? Yes

Manny wanted a cutoff date and Floyd said no.

Bottom line once Manny accepted random drug testing the fight happened.

These are facts. Not opinions

Thats what they do, Modes Operandi of brain-dead Manny fans, there are a lot of genuine Manny fans, this is about the brain-dead minority.

They can NEVER answer a logical question, always they answer with a complete deflection spewing emotional dribble.

Everything they say is based on emotion and innuendo, they use baseless language the same way schoolgirls do, to you it's a debate, to them it's a b!tch session.

They act like social media cowards, lurkers waiting for anything to be said about Mayweather, then boom here they are spinning the exact same BS that has been knocked out of the park on a daily basis since 2010, they were beaten down and their ranks destroyed when Floyd beat Manny, now all you have is the weirdos left.

Every time they start their BS it gets knocked out and the cowards go hide again, only to reappear right where they left off last time, its like they woke up from the last KO loss forgot it happened and stagger off raining BS lol.

[Nash out]

Nash recalls being amazed when he managed to beat the wrestler The Big Show. Nash out

[Roadblock]

Nash recalls being amazed when he managed to beat the wrestler The Big Show. Nash out

I was amazed at the money he made doing it, Floyd is a brilliant businessman one of few fighters to crossover into the mainstream, non of which is possible for boxers unless you are a special fighter first, one cannot achieve that on BS it can only happen of the back of greatness in the ring, without it they start out with all the bells and whistles only to fall off with a dismal ring performance that repeats and they finished.

There is no one thing or one fight Floyd did that made him great, its the entire career from all angles that made him truly great, in any field its extremely hard to stand out today, to rise to the top of the world, fck me, hats of to them , they should be inspired too, the personality pool is where all their haters swim, but in the ocean of achievements and how they did it is where the learning is, here is an analogy of haters in boxing, not just Floyd all boxing, everyone that's too scared to swim in the ocean, will all stand on the shore and throw stones into it.

[QueensburyRules]

Here we go deflecting.

The man said Floyd would never agree to 50/50. I proved that he did accept 50/50 and here you go deflecting.

Did Floyd accept 50/50? yes

Did Manny turn down random drug testing? Yes

Manny wanted a cutoff date and Floyd said no.

Bottom line once Manny accepted random drug testing the fight happened.

These are facts. Not opinions

- - Facts are your facts are flawed.

I never mentioned the 50/50 purse that you used to illicitly bolster your argument.

TBE TUE wanted USADA testing instead of standard Vegas drug testing, literally as a wrench thrown in the works at the last point of no return. Random Olympic drug testing was never mentioned. Both Arum and Manny balked at this last minute demand that resulted in emergency cut off date negotiations that killed the fight.

TBE never made the March 13 date of the fight at the MGM Grande, but Manny made the date at the inauguration of the new Cowboy Stadium vs Clottey, one of many welters TBE TUE ducked.

Why didn't TBE TUE make the date and venue? Why didn't Golden Boy insist on the Olympic style drug testing that they promoted as cleaning up boxing? Clearly they negotiated in bad faith knowing he was never gonna fight Manny. Both paid out a civil $ettlement and published letter of apology to Manny for their slander.

How come the sissy needed his Vegas commish and USADA approved 2 week backdated TUE, and then a hastily altered official scorecard to secure the "official" win?

How come the near 90 yr old Arum testosterone levels were greater than young gun TBE TUE for their fight?

Sissyboy?

How many 2 week backdated TUEs has the USADA issued in their history?

Go git'em, Tiger...

[BodyBagz]

Thats not a dream my statement is rooted in fact.

Floyd would fight Hearns after he'd been ko'd multiple times and was coming off a win on a c level opponent

The best guys Floyd fought, were after they had been ko'd or raked thru the coals. Then they beat a fringe contender or two then Floyd feels the risk is much lower. So it's by no stretch of the imagination that Floyd would duck a big ww that could spark him out one punch

Was put to sleep by JMM, who couldn't win a single rd vs May
A part time school teacher (CPGW) robbed him
Basic AF Ugas showed him the door
Shot Berto wipes out 95% of Pac's ''resume''.

Edit -
In the end, no matter which ATG would have beaten May, it wouldn't ever be Pac

[Hustle]

- - Facts are your facts are flawed.

I never mentioned the 50/50 purse that you used to illicitly bolster your argument.

TBE TUE wanted USADA testing instead of standard Vegas drug testing, literally as a wrench thrown in the works at the last point of no return. Random Olympic drug testing was never mentioned. Both Arum and Manny balked at this last minute demand that resulted in emergency cut off date negotiations that killed the fight.

TBE never made the March 13 date of the fight at the MGM Grande, but Manny made the date at the inauguration of the new Cowboy Stadium vs Clottey, one of many welters TBE TUE ducked.

Why didn't TBE TUE make the date and venue? Why didn't Golden Boy insist on the Olympic style drug testing that they promoted as cleaning up boxing? Clearly they negotiated in bad faith knowing he was never gonna fight Manny. Both paid out a civil $ettlement and published letter of apology to Manny for their slander.

How come the sissy needed his Vegas commish and USADA approved 2 week backdated TUE, and then a hastily altered official scorecard to secure the "official" win?

How come the near 90 yr old Arum testosterone levels were greater than young gun TBE TUE for their fight?

Sissyboy?

How many 2 week backdated TUEs has the USADA issued in their history?

Go git'em, Tiger...

You replied to a post that I sent another person. So wtf are you talking about? I wasn't even talking to you about a 50/50 split.

Another poster said Floyd never accepted a 50/50 split. I then sent him 5 links proving Floyd did agree to 50/50.


Then you came in deflecting from the facts talking about things that me and that poster weren't even debating.


Did Floyd agree to 50/50 in 2010? yes or no.

Did Manny refuse random drug testing in 2010? Yes or no

Did manny ask for a 7 day cutoff? Yes or no

Did Manny accept the same random drug testing in 2015? Yes or no

the answer is yes to all of those questions by the way. These are facts. Not opinions.

Your whole argument is based on what you believe. Mines is based on what actually happened.

[Hustle]

Thats what they do, Modes Operandi of brain-dead Manny fans, there are a lot of genuine Manny fans, this is about the brain-dead minority.

They can NEVER answer a logical question, always they answer with a complete deflection spewing emotional dribble.

Everything they say is based on emotion and innuendo, they use baseless language the same way schoolgirls do, to you it's a debate, to them it's a b!tch session.

They act like social media cowards, lurkers waiting for anything to be said about Mayweather, then boom here they are spinning the exact same BS that has been knocked out of the park on a daily basis since 2010, they were beaten down and their ranks destroyed when Floyd beat Manny, now all you have is the weirdos left.

Every time they start their BS it gets knocked out and the cowards go hide again, only to reappear right where they left off last time, its like they woke up from the last KO loss forgot it happened and stagger off raining BS lol.

Preach bro