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We don't know if Floyd's would ever fight the best ww of all time even if in same era, let alone win. He wouldn't fight thurman, spence, brook, and trust me people wanted him to.
So id never give floyd any fantasy win, if you can't even trust floyd would sign fightLast edited by hugh grant; 03-23-2023, 07:32 AM.Comment
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First off. What natural, all time great ww in their prime did Floyd beat to suggest he could hang with any of the top 10 atg guys. None and the Floyd boys hate to admit that.
Hell, Floyd found a way to avoid guys like Williams and Margarito.
And no, beating the likes of Guerrero, Ortiz, Madonna, out of prime Cotto, Manny and Shane doesn't prove anything. Anybody can look srr'ish beating a lineup of c fighters and past prime guys
At welterweight, Floyd and his braintrust had a confidence problem. They just didn't like the odds or the risk factor when it came to prime welterweights who had height/reach on him who could throw a good one two combination. They were bad for the brand
Its a reason why Floyd barely cracks top 5-10 all time at welterweight. The critics know he cherrypicked his way through the division.
Thats the difference between him and Pernell. Pernell wasn't in a position to cherrypick like that.Last edited by djtmal; 03-23-2023, 08:23 AM.Comment
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Floyd is definitely one for the ages He doesn't, IMO, win them all if he were faced with Robinson, Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Whitaker, Trinidad, but he does better than many might think.
I've always seen something very special in Floyd. His early career defeat of Genaro Hernandez was impressive. His methodical dismantling of the momentum-strong Diego Corrales was telling. But his brawl with Jose Luis Castillo in their first contraversial contest was to me very very telling. His in-fighting demonstrated his ability to engage in a high level protracted inside fire fight when the moments called for it. Castillo did well to force the action but Mayweather showed a degree of accumen in that kiln of battle that I found very impressive. Many thought he was being outfought, not being able to play the trickster counter-puncher from his preferred range, with his preferred timing of openings and opportunity, but instead he bit down and applied some crafty, gutty infighting. Not the stuff of a front runner. Rather, the stuff of an all-time great.
His comeback in 2009 after his needless vacation where I felt he robbed us of 21-months of his stellar career, or 3 big matches. That comeback against a great smaller man with terrific boxing fundamentals and a career of postive championship character moments and world titles, that comeback was stellar.
His gut-check a year later against Sugar Shane Mosley is a standout because it underlined everything I always knew about Dear Floyd; the ability to grit the break-point moments through and be able to turn the tables - all within the same round. Watch round 2 of that match. Absoluetly spectacular stuff going on, with connotations hinting at the years and years of practice and refinement and practiced composure that went into making him who he was in that crucial moment of extreme duress. Mayweather was indeed damned special.Last edited by Hooded Terror; 03-23-2023, 08:44 AM.Comment
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You just exposed yourself as a casual. This is old news. This is 3 different links all saying they agreed to a 50/50 split. But instead of saying you were wrong. You will deflect. Here are the facts. Not opinions
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If PBF is his best version and let's assume he played it safe as Money, where does his PBF career stand in terms of ATG? I ask because I hear this a lot. People like to say, forget about what he did at WW, it wasn't the true Mayweather, but rather at the lighter weights when he was PBF. So where does that career stand?Comment
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