I truly respect Mayweather for what he did

[El_Maldito_Rey]

Youre an idiot that has no clue what youre talking about, get off the fanboy pills and go learn boxing.

What prime P4P fighter did he fight?

[El_Maldito_Rey]

Ducked every available, credible opponent, steroid abuse, ridiculous demands for his opponents, waited for Pacquiao to have losses before facing him, didn't give Oscar a rematch, paid off judges to get him wins, runner and never had highlight reel KO's or fights.

[Roadblock]

Neither win was really impressive if you take into account that Marquez was dragged up two weight classes in one fight, and Manny was out of his prime

Through the eyes of an obsessed hater, are you for real you sick puppy, your brain is so consumed with negative hate that you have emotional cancer and don't even know it, what criteria you apply to Mayweather is absent from any other fighter, especially Manny, and you are so eaten up on the inside because Mayweather did not only beat your heroes he beat youre opinion at every turn and your fragile persona cant bare to live with so it festers like cancer.

Marquez says the total opposite to you, Marquez fought Manny 4 times he had absolutely no interest in fighting Mayweather twice and the reason for that is that he was so thoroughly outclassed that he wanted no more of that school, it was like a student being embarrassed by a master and Marquez had never endured such mental domination at any time throughout his career as a boxer, he had no answer to Floyd at all, Juans trainer Bernstein, one of the greatest trainers in history said Mayweather was from another planet and you could not beat him with a stick, that performance was a masterclass in professional boxing and I call on you to find a single elite fighter or elite trainer that will call it anything different.

You are such a weak-minded individual that contradicts yourself at every turn; this is what haters do like clockwork, the analogy is they look for different coloured shoelaces as a reason why a guy won a marathon, they will ignore their guy doing the same things while using it as a hate excuse for the other guy winning, the way you are today so many years after the fact and with the clarity of hindsight you still spin total BS, that's all about your mental shortcomings, your mental breakdown and your lack of character.

You know fck all about boxing and could not live with me for 5 minutes face to face, and I won't put a finger on you; your ignorance would shrivel up and hide from the truth like I poured acid on you, its easy to type the sht you do but you could not speak it eye to eye, I despise haters and see them as mentally insecure because they are too weak to admit truths that they got wrong, I breed performance dogs and have done for 60yrs, when I get a dog that is temperamentally messed up as you are I put a lead pill in its ear.

[Marchegiano]

Crazy how you guys are still crying about Mayweather.

[BodyBagz]

Ducked every available, credible opponent, steroid abuse, ridiculous demands for his opponents, waited for Pacquiao to have losses before facing him, didn't give Oscar a rematch, paid off judges to get him wins, runner and never had highlight reel KO's or fights.

Any proof of your claims ?

I remember Arum putting off the fight so they can build a proper stadium -
Bob Arum’s temporary outdoor stadium for Mayweather vs. Pacquiao is an excuse

https://www.nowboxing.com/2012/01/bo...-excuse/22756/

In Pac's own words (I love posting this) -
In his own words, Pacquiao on blood testing

https://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael...-blood-testing

"The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight. That does not make sense to me why anyone would do that. These accusations of me using any performance enhancing supplements are totally unwarranted and unjustified."

Pac didn't give Horn ( ) a rematch either

May and Pac had the same amount of KOs at WW, 2
Pac KO/TKO @ WW
Cotto* and Lucas
May -
Ortiz and Hatton

They retired with the same KO %
54 %

May was never slept.

This is what I mean by providing proof.

[Roadblock]

What prime P4P fighter did he fight?

When was May prime lets start there?

[MONGOOSE66]

When was May prime lets start there?

Im not a nut hugger like most of the ladies on here. I just love boxing and Mayweather DEFINITELY ISN'T my favorite fighter but him beating Canelo & Corrales when they were BEASTS was impressive. Pac was damn good when he met him too.
Otherwise he really beat old men or just above average fighters. Im not sure its all his fault though cause his era of fighters wasn't a good one.

[Roadblock]

Im not a nut hugger like most of the ladies on here. I just love boxing and Mayweather DEFINITELY ISN'T my favorite fighter but him beating Canelo & Corrales when they were BEASTS was impressive. Pac was damn good when he met him too.
Otherwise he really beat old men or just above average fighters. Im not sure its all his fault though cause his era of fighters wasn't a good one.

What you said applies to everyone from Leonard to Manny to Floyd to Oscar, they all have outstanding wins and they all have ordinary fill-in fight wins, when assessing a fighter its the entire body of work that defines them in this conversation, things that matter are weight classes, the form of opponents, when in their career a fight happened, its not an easy thing to define accurately, take prime for instance, what is it, if you want to split hairs there was one night where everything was perfectly in the zone firing on 12 cylinders, then you have elite fighters that sit a 90% or better zone for most of their career, average fighters have one or two best performance and a big drop of for the rest, but because boxing is in fractions if you are 93% and the opponent is 97% you will probably lose if you are somewhat close in ability.

What Im getting at here is the innuendo fans will place on something like oh that's the reason he beat so many world champions over a 20 yr run, you don't have to be Einstein to realize Floyd is truly a great fighter, so is Manny and many others, its the way haters will throw trivial BS to try and lower the entire career of a fighter that irks me no end, every fighter that ever existed is open to criticism, but that's a long way from hate, in my opinion, Floyd was the best fighter of his era, I don't get into the GOAT bs because I don't believe their is one, so I only look at them in their era and way up the entire body of work.

[BodyBagz]

What you said applies to everyone from Leonard to Manny to Floyd to Oscar, they all have outstanding wins and they all have ordinary fill-in fight wins, when assessing a fighter its the entire body of work that defines them in this conversation, things that matter are weight classes, the form of opponents, when in their career a fight happened, its not an easy thing to define accurately, take prime for instance, what is it, if you want to split hairs there was one night where everything was perfectly in the zone firing on 12 cylinders, then you have elite fighters that sit a 90% or better zone for most of their career, average fighters have one or two best performance and a big drop of for the rest, but because boxing is in fractions if you are 93% and the opponent is 97% you will probably lose if you are somewhat close in ability.

What Im getting at here is the innuendo fans will place on something like oh that's the reason he beat so many world champions over a 20 yr run, you don't have to be Einstein to realize Floyd is truly a great fighter, so is Manny and many others, its the way haters will throw trivial BS to try and lower the entire career of a fighter that irks me no end, every fighter that ever existed is open to criticism, but that's a long way from hate, in my opinion, Floyd was the best fighter of his era, I don't get into the GOAT bs because I don't believe their is one, so I only look at them in their era and way up the entire body of work.

Some people REFUSE to be as critical with Pac as they are with May.
Hate proving their point with links.
Depend on emotions and name calling

One mans bum/cherry is another mans legend

[MONGOOSE66]

What you said applies to everyone from Leonard to Manny to Floyd to Oscar, they all have outstanding wins and they all have ordinary fill-in fight wins, when assessing a fighter its the entire body of work that defines them in this conversation, things that matter are weight classes, the form of opponents, when in their career a fight happened, its not an easy thing to define accurately, take prime for instance, what is it, if you want to split hairs there was one night where everything was perfectly in the zone firing on 12 cylinders, then you have elite fighters that sit a 90% or better zone for most of their career, average fighters have one or two best performance and a big drop of for the rest, but because boxing is in fractions if you are 93% and the opponent is 97% you will probably lose if you are somewhat close in ability.

What Im getting at here is the innuendo fans will place on something like oh that's the reason he beat so many world champions over a 20 yr run, you don't have to be Einstein to realize Floyd is truly a great fighter, so is Manny and many others, its the way haters will throw trivial BS to try and lower the entire career of a fighter that irks me no end, every fighter that ever existed is open to criticism, but that's a long way from hate, in my opinion, Floyd was the best fighter of his era, I don't get into the GOAT bs because I don't believe their is one, so I only look at them in their era and way up the entire body of work.

No doubt in my mind he was an ELITE fighter. TBE??? I dont think he had enough PRIME opposition to give him that. Like I said, its not his fault. He's up there though. I personally think his style was genius. Same goes for Mike Tyson’s style.