Lennox Lewis V.S. Vitali Klitschko

[Shaolin Bushido]

1st of all,

Asking people who won this fight and encouraging them to post their scores only inforces all the delusional Vitali nut huggers to get worked up.

The #1 piece of non sense the Klitschko fanatics bring up in regards to this fight was that Vitali was up on points.

Points have NOTHING to do with a fight that's STOPPED as a TECHNICAL KNOCK OUT.

Vitali did well early on, but Lennox elected to slug it out.

After 4 or 5 rounds, Vitali had suffored 5 seperate cuts (the worst being above his left eye, one under his left eye, one on his upper lip, one on his lower lip, and one in the roof of his mouth). The total was somewhere between 60-80 stitches.

Klitschko did better than anyone expected he would, and foght admirably, but the end result was his face sustaining so much damage from a result of Lennox Lewis' punches that the doctor was forced to stop the fight.


There is NO QUESTION who one this fight:




and anyone that wants to desperatly squabble about the scoring in a SIX round fight that was STOPPED is desperatly trying to hold on to something.

Looks like he bumped into the edge of a ****in roadside explosive device!

Who was it that said, "his face looked like it was sliding off his skull"?

[Bozo_no no]

If people believed Lewis was winning the fight, they wouldn't be saying he was out of shape. It's the fact that he was loosing that people have to make excuses for him. The truth is, Vitali was beating him regardless of Lewis's condition.

Lewis was a great boxer and beat all the best of his generation. He beat Vitali by way of some freak lacerations. Lewis cut him by chance. You can't say he cut him on purpose, Lewis had gloves on his hands and would punch the same way regardless. How do you cut someone intentionally when your wearing boxing gloves? Hence Lewis got lucky.

As for what would have happened in later rounds, we will never know. I for one think that Vitali would have knocked Lewis out. The cuts left Vitali few options.

Also you can't blame Vitali for fighting who's available. If the heavyweight division is weak, than I ask who left the division that made it weak? It's not Vitali's fault Forman got old, or Holyfield washed up, or Lewis retired........well....Maybe you can blame him for that. Lets just hope he fights more than once a year like Lewis did. So far, he is.

Leave it to this FOOL to drop all this non sense.

1. Points don't mean ANYTHING when a fight is stopped because one fighter's face looks like a bloody meat pie.

2. Winning BEFORE you LOSE also doesn't mean ANYTHING.

3. These cuts:


Were not the result of luck, chance, or freak occurances.

They were caused by continued power shots in a slug fest.

Lennox Lewis landed 50 % of his power punches in this fight.

You need to learn to DEAL WITH THIS.

You are one of the WORST people on this forum for being delusional about Vitali's two losses.

There's NOTHING to argue about here.

Vitali Klitschko LOST this fight. PERIOD.

[Torino]

First, I don't know who's arguing the fact that lewis won. And I didn't mention points.

Second, I never said you couldn't cut someone by a punch when you are wearing a glove. I said you can't punch someone with the intention of cutting them deliberately while you are wearing a glove. When you are whearing a glove, cuts happen by chance. Once your opponent is cut, then you can make it worse.

Third, to say they teach you to turn your fist to cause a cut is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard. I must have missed that day or they only taught that to the slow guys.

[Bozo_no no]

First, I don't know who's arguing the fact that lewis won. And I didn't mention points.

Second, I never said you couldn't cut someone by a punch when you are wearing a glove. I said you can't punch someone with the intention of cutting them deliberately while you are wearing a glove. When you are whearing a glove, cuts happen by chance. Once your opponent is cut, then you can make it worse.

Third, to say they teach you to turn your fist to cause a cut is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard. I must have missed that day or they only taught that to the slow guys.

Why even bring up "luck" in regards to those cutS?

Lewis landed 50% of his power punches.

That was what ultimatly won him the fight.

There was nothing 'lucky' about Lewis deciding to slug it out and landing heavy shots that ripped Vitali's face open in several spots.

They both were slugging, it was a war, Lewis is the heavier puncher, and he tore Vitali's face up.

It was OBVIOUS Lewis landed the harder more telling shots. This was completely evident in the condition of Vitali's face, which was so bad it looked like he was in some terrible car accident.

[oldgringo]

Actually you do punch someone with the intention of cutting them...thats one of your intentions at least...to make your opponent lose in any way possible. Cuts are a strategic plus in a fight and can really hamper how well a fighter fights. Im sure that any fighter would settle on winning a TKO by way of cuts that were caused by multiple power punches to the face.

[Torino]

Why even bring up "luck" in regards to those cutS

Once again, because you can't control if your opponent gets cut. Unless Lewis wore his "Sharp Gloves" that day.

And I never questioned Lewis's power punches.

[splittingatoms]

First, I don't know who's arguing the fact that lewis won. And I didn't mention points.

Second, I never said you couldn't cut someone by a punch when you are wearing a glove. I said you can't punch someone with the intention of cutting them deliberately while you are wearing a glove. When you are whearing a glove, cuts happen by chance. Once your opponent is cut, then you can make it worse.

Third, to say they teach you to turn your fist to cause a cut is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard. I must have missed that day or they only taught that to the slow guys.

yea you must have missed it because that is one of the first thing that they teach you in a boxing gym.you have you hands up .right hand close to your right side of your cheek and your left by your left side but a lil farther from your face.and when you whip out a jab or right hand you keep the punch just like you had it before then right at the end of your punch you turn it over.that is the basic idiot.and everytime you throw a punch you are trying to damage the guy you are fighting.so yes you are to intentionally trying to cut or hurt your opponent.unless you were taught to pitty pat.either you are to ****** to understand this or is it that you are really that dumb.

[Bozo_no no]

Once again, because you can't control if your opponent gets cut. Unless Lewis wore his "Sharp Gloves" that day.

And I never questioned Lewis's power punches.

What does controll have to do with it?

Vicious cuts are the result of violent punching.

Vitali, like Lewis, was slugging it out.

Slugging it out with a pucher like Lewis, and eating 50% of his power punches, is a good way to get your face looking like this:



There was nothing 'lucky' about it.

[Torino]

and when you whip out a jab or right hand you keep the punch just like you had it before then right at the end of your punch you turn it over.

You turn your fist as a result of completing the punching motion. It's for optimal power, not to cause a cut. The "snap of the elbow".

You are deliberately twisting what is taught or you have no training at all. Most likely the later.

[Torino]

What does controll have to do with it?

Vicious cuts are the result of violent punching.

Vitali, like Lewis, was slugging it out.

Slugging it out with a pucher like Lewis, and eating 50% of his power punches, is a good way to get your face looking like this:



There was nothing 'lucky' about it.

You are Jose.