Lennox Lewis V.S. Vitali Klitschko

[Torino]

The fact remains the same. Klitschko has about a 93.5% KO ratio (37fights/34ko's), The WBC championship belt, and has never been behind on the score cards at the end of any of his fights including his two losses to Lewis and Byrd. That's more than Lewis, Byrd, Ruiz, or any other current top HW can say.

Isn't that what we are looking for in a Champion?

No one questions the fact that Lewis won the fight, but many of us question whether or not Lewis earned the win. Lewis was loosing on the cards and won the fight by cuts. A cut occurs by chance, the chances may be greater in some instances than others, but chance non the less. In other words, Lewis got lucky or has really sharp gloves. That's why there was such an outcry for a rematch.

IMO - Only a Lewis fan would dismiss the fact that all three judges had Lewis loosing by 2to1 on the scorecards and doesn't think there should have been a rematch.

[Enayze]

I had 5-1 Vitali with Lewis only winning round 6.

[Enayze]

I am soo sick of this fight. It was one of the least important but most controversial fights ever. I don't care who would have won, I'm just pissed they didn't do it again so we would have a winner.

What you mean they? Vitali was willing and begging for a rematch.

[Enayze]

Who won the fight in your opinion?

I had Lewis winning rounds 1,3,5,6.

VK won rounds 2 and 4 and was en route to getting brutally K.O.'d late in the fight. Lewis was playing Yo-Yo with his head.

If they fought again, Lewis would make a statement. Knocking the lesser fighter out cold. Reality is painful, so lets hear it.

VK was dangerously close to being the biggest disco dancer boxing has ever seen. He was holding on for dear life to Lennox's shoulders.

VK is the man for standing up to those punches. His chin is granite.

Are you serious that scoring is the most horrible that I witnessed from the Lewis Klitschko fight. The best Lewis could've done, and this being generous to him was 3 rounds a piece. I had it scored 5 rounds to 1 with Vitali ahead. He outlanded Lewis in every single round and outworked him.

[Enayze]

Bernard Hopkins suffered a "dislocated shoulder" In the 6th round of the Echols fight. He continued to fight.

Recieving punishment on a dislocated shoulder is worse than a "rotator cuff". Bernard was blocking punches with the hurt shoulder, obviously wearing out the socket.

That is a matter of heart my friend. That injury VK incurred was far from career ending. B-Hops' was physiologically threatenting. he could have pinched a nerve, or something.

As for Gatti, well....everyone knows the broken hand story.

Are you ******? A torn rotator cuff is 3 times worse than a dislocated shoulder. A dislocated shoulder doesnt require surgery, do you even know what the hell your talking about?

[Stickman]

Bernard Hopkins suffered a "dislocated shoulder" In the 6th round of the Echols fight. He continued to fight.

Recieving punishment on a dislocated shoulder is worse than a "rotator cuff". Bernard was blocking punches with the hurt shoulder, obviously wearing out the socket.

That is a matter of heart my friend. That injury VK incurred was far from career ending. B-Hops' was physiologically threatenting. he could have pinched a nerve, or something.

As for Gatti, well....everyone knows the broken hand story.

A dislocated shoulder isn't the same as tearing the rotator cuff. The dislocation is simply that...the ball popping out of the socket, and back in. It's painful for a short while, but it goes away fairly soon, and if no soft tissue was seriously damaged, it's better within a couple of weeks.

And a broken hand isn't as painful as a torn shoulder. Had both, know the difference. I worked 4 days with a fractured hand once because I didn't have the time to take off, and the job had to be finished (weather).

Soft tissue damage to the shoulder, however, can be permanent if it's bad enough, and abused enough. It can't be repaired like a fracture. You can't "fix" soft tissue if it's torn bad enough. He made the right choice, though many people who've never worked in a job where injuries are common probably won't ever realise this.

[Stickman]

I had 5-1 Vitali with Lewis only winning round 6.

I had it 4-2 Klitchko...gave Lewis 3 and 6. I disagree with the guy above who said Lewis was looking better. He looked like he was about to drop at the end of 6, and whatever anybody wants go think, a 37 year old fighter who's not in peak condition (and Lewis wasn't) does NOT "get better in late rounds"....he's going to fade, and Lewis was beginning to do just that. Had the cuts not been opened I think he'd have been in seriously deep **** by the middle or end of 7. Klitchko is younger, in better shape, and was able to recover much more in between rounds than Lewis.

[Stickman]

I should also add that I'm NOT a Klitchko "nuthugger", as some would call a big Klitchko fan. I like the guy, he's exciting and that's what I want in a heavyweight, but I'm not likely to want to blow the guy anytime soon. And I had a fair amount of money on Lewis in that fight (almost shat myself in round 2) because having never seen Klitchko in an entire fight (just clips), I felt he was too clumsy to even be a challenge to Lewis. Boy was I wrong

[AintGottaClue]

Oh please.

for the fight time's sake,
did Vitali "know" he had a deteriorating rotator cuff? If so, why did he enter the fight?

You do not just tear the cuff, and then perform self diagnosis jackoff.

A dislocated shoulder is worse. It requires medical attention.
WTF are you talking about? Stop watching television. Dislocated shoulder is worse for the time being.
"meaning it is out of socket".
someone has to place it back in the ****ing socket.

Get off of Vitali's balls while you are at it ****face.
anyone who thinks a "rotator cuff" injury is worse than a dislocated joint.....is a ****ing idiot. You have ZERO CONTROL OVER THE RANGE OF MOTION.

Another thing dumass:
Your arm has to be immobilized after it is dislocated.
a simple trip to the surgeon fixes a "bull**** Rotator cuff".

If I had any Karma left, and could: I would dissaprove of that post 20 times, because you accuse me of not knowing:
When you know ****. Nothing worse than hating on something you know nothing about.

dude klitschko is a ****ing doctor of corse he knew u idiot whne u tear a mussle in your body your gonna feel it, hopkins dislocated his shoulder big deal pop it back in, it aint so serious ****, it aint career ending

[AintGottaClue]

Was he prepared to perform surgery on himself in the ring?

and he is a

PHD. in sports/nutrition Science

not an MD. You ****ing moron.

he has medical background u idiot and in sports i think he knows what a injury is


btw i notice u got 10M points , when i logged on today i had 10M also think its for the ******* and fight work he do on boxing downloads? or did everyone get 10M