Comments Thread For: Gennadiy Golovkin Relinquishes WBA Middleweight Title; Erislandy Lara Upgraded To Full Titlist

[AKAcronym]

Again, you just wrote the same thing we have been discussing, what you're writing is what you think happened, that's call assumption, you don't have any proof that what you're writing is the whole truth but nothing but the truth, and you are assuming that ggg would have beat Lara, and you are assuming that Lara stayed at 154 because he in truth didn't want to fight ggg, when he was slaying the bum of the month for good money, just like ggg was doing at 160. The fact of the matter is, ggg vacated and didn't wait for the purse bid, not Lara, the truth is that while they didn't fight in their prime, it wasn't because Lara didn't want to, and maybe it wasn't ggg's fault. I can say that I read an interview with abel, where he stated that Lara was boring, if you want to go a step further, you can say that was an excuse, and he didn't like the matchup, but that will be an assumption, and I'll be doing the same thing you're doing. So I'm just going to say that it was a shame they didn't fought six or seven years ago, and it's a shame they're not going to fight now, by the way $1million wasn't a lot of money back then, especially for a fight like that, they have been paying a lot more money for less competitive fights. Be safe, and please just drop it. You're going to write the same thing and my reply is going to be the same, there's no reason for this argument or discussion, pretty sure we're going to find another topic to discuss.

HBO wasn't really in a position to be giving out purses like that unless it was PPV, at that time. So yes, a million dollars as a start for both fighters was a good amount. This wasn't the days of HBO giving multi million dollar purses like Berto and Broner. But yes it is unfortunate that the fight didn't happen. Would've been a good fight.

[BodyBagz]

Pathetic. Crowns should be won or lost in the ring.

Can't make a ''champ'' defend the very titles HE SAID he was going to defend

[stealthradon]

My apologies to his world class resume. Vanes matroysian Steve rolls kamil szermeta Martin Murray all deserve an apology from me. Dude is a can crusher. Best “win” was dervychenko and he anyone who watched that fight knows he lost lol but I’ll give him that. Beating kell Brook wasn’t impressive as he was 147 pound fighter and has been KOd by former 135 lb champ dud duckford so that’s that lol. lil has a carefully constructed career that avoided any risk. He chased canelo the only noteworthy fighter he ever dared to challenge himself with and went 0 for 3. Really a sad career. Avoided Pavlik martinez taylor soon as they were done he came over and tried to pick on cotto. Cotto not dumb tho just said whatever, fought mayweather and retired. Like I said a sad career devoid of any notable career wins

Actually Cotto paid GGG to not fight.
Pavlik literally was retired at the point and "Pavlik said they wanted him to fight Triple G, but there was no way that he could make middleweight at that point in his life. Pavlik says he never seriously gave it a consideration."
Martinez´ manager said "Sergio will be out for at least a year. You saw his last fight, he won it on guts and will and balls alone. He had no knee, he had no hand, and I'm not sending a champion who is 38-years-old - after a year plus layoff - into a ring with this guy. I'm not saying they will never fight. I'm not speaking for Sergio, who is a grown as man and controls his own career. The successor to Sergio Martiknez has already been determined and the next great middleweight is Triple G."
Taylor stopped his career in 2014.

[memphis mook]

So the guy that made a career off of fighting weak ass mandatories all of a sudden drops a belt when it's time to fight the most skilled of any mandatory that he's faced. FOH.

[garfios]

HBO wasn't really in a position to be giving out purses like that unless it was PPV, at that time. So yes, a million dollars as a start for both fighters was a good amount. This wasn't the days of HBO giving multi million dollar purses like Berto and Broner. But yes it is unfortunate that the fight didn't happen. Would've been a good fight.

That's BS, capital, 3millions(they could have easily charged $40.00, and a least 350K from around the world would have bought, and that is being conservative) for a fight like that was nothing for HBO. If HBO didn't have the money, they could have reached an agreement with SHO, after all, HBO and SHO have a history of working together, like I said, you don't know the reason why the fight wasn't made back then, but we do have an idea why is not going to happen now. That is probably the exact reason why it didn't happen a few years ago, but I really don't know.

[AKAcronym]

That's BS, capital, 3millions for a fight like that was nothing for HBO. If HBO didn't have the money, they could have reached an agreement with SHO, after all HBO and SHO has a history of working together, like I said, you don't know the reason why the fight wasn't made back then, but we do have an idea why is not going to happen now. And is probably the same reason why didn't happen a few years ago, but I really don't know.

The only fight that came around those numbers was Golovkin/Wade. Unless Golovkin were to take less to make up for Lara wanting at least a million, compared to Wade's 500k, I don't think would have worked. They'd also have to scrap any decent undercard and pay absolute dog**** to not go over budget. 2017 was definitely off the table as their budget was even worse. It maaybe could've happened in 2015 but talks weren't really there at that point. The only way it would have worked is if it was on PPV and I don't know if both parties would have been willing to do that. Yes they've worked together but I don't think for that particular fight it would've happened, well because it didn't, for whatever myriad of reasons. I don't give a **** as to why now the fight won't happen. Golovkin has been pathetic the past few years and he needs to retire and let the division work itself out, if that's even possible with how bad it is/has been.

[garfios]

The only fight that came around those numbers was Golovkin/Wade. Unless Golovkin were to take less to make up for Lara wanting at least a million, compared to Wade's 500k, I don't think would have worked. They'd also have to scrap any decent undercard and pay absolute dog**** to not go over budget. 2017 was definitely off the table as their budget was even worse. It maaybe could've happened in 2015 but talks weren't really there at that point. The only way it would have worked is if it was on PPV and I don't know if both parties would have been willing to do that. Yes they've worked together but I don't think for that particular fight it would've happened, well because it didn't, for whatever myriad of reasons. I don't give a **** as to why now the fight won't happen. Golovkin has been pathetic the past few years and he needs to retire and let the division work itself out, if that's even possible with how bad it is/has been.

Common man, this is going nowhere, read your own wordings "I don't think would have worked", it's your opinion, only an opinion, just like mine that happens to be the opposite of what you think, you keep replying because you want to be the one closing the discussion? You're writing the same thing over and over, okay, I yield, you won, by the way, wade is not Lara. Be safe

[AKAcronym]

Common man, this is going nowhere, read your own wordings "I don't think would have worked", it's your opinion, only an opinion, just like mine that happens to be the opposite of what you think, you keep replying because you want to be the one closing the discussion? You're writing the same thing over and over, okay, I yield, you won, by the way, wade is not Lara. Be safe

Of course this is all "I think/I don't think" since we're not behind the ****ing scenes. Of course Wade isn't Lara. So where do you think they're going to come up with the extra money to pay for someone like Lara, who would demand that kind of purse? They'd have to pay hardly anything for the undercard to make it work. It's not hard to understand that money at HBO at that time was getting depleted. This isn't about winning or losing, since that isn't the point of discussion but whatever. Take care.

[garfios]

Of course this is all "I think/I don't think" since we're not behind the ****ing scenes. Of course Wade isn't Lara. So where do you think they're going to come up with the extra money to pay for someone like Lara, who would demand that kind of purse? They'd have to pay hardly anything for the undercard to make it work. It's not hard to understand that money at HBO at that time was getting depleted. This isn't about winning or losing, since that isn't the point of discussion but whatever. Take care.

I'm a fan, It's not my job, nor I care how they get the money, it's their business to put the best product out, I came from an era that promoters were trying to put together the best fights, and the fans didn't try to play networks executives or promoters outfits. I'd have paid for the ppv or the subscription, that's all I care, and of course watching the fight. Ggg made millions fighting nobodies until he hit the lottery when he fought canelo, I think he won the first fight, the second I have no issue with canelo been the victor, the third wasn't needed. Again, I think the ginger lost to Lara and looked horrible in the process, but he never gave him a rematch, even thought millions and the press scored the bout for the Cuban. Actually, he never fought another slick fighter until he met a terrified plant and out of his depth. Where ggg goes from here on, who knows, maybe he moves up to 168lbs, he ain't fighting benavidez nor Morell jr that I know. He's closing his career, not with a ****, hopefully he does make a ton of money. Be safe.

[AKAcronym]

I'm a fan, It's not my job, nor I care how they get the money, it's their business to put the best product out, I came from an era that promoters were trying to put together the best fights, and the fans didn't try to play networks executives or promoters outfits. I'd have paid for the ppv or the subscription, that's all I care, and of course watching the fight. Ggg made millions fighting nobodies until he hit the lottery when he fought canelo, I think he won the first fight, the second I have no issue with canelo been the victor, the third wasn't needed. Again, I think the ginger lost to Lara and looked horrible in the process, but he never gave him a rematch, even thought millions and the press scored the bout for the Cuban. Actually, he never fought another slick fighter until he met a terrified plant and out of his depth. Where ggg goes from here on, who knows, maybe he moves up to 168lbs, he ain't fighting benavidez nor Morell jr that I know. He's closing his career, not with a ****, hopefully he does make a ton of money. Be safe.

GGG probably does jack **** from here on out. He definitely isn't facing anyone meaningful at 168, if he even decides to fight there. He'd be screwed coming back down to 160 as well. So if he does fight someone, l'd assume it'd be somewhere in the middle. But yeah I would have bought a GGG/Lara fight if it was PPV. I got nothing against Lara as a fighter. Definitely got screwed against Williams and came up just short against Canelo, in a fight that for sure could've been scored for him. I do think GGG at that time would've been too much for him at 160 but obviously we'll never know.