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  • Hooded Terror
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    #11
    I blame big-business-boxing. The heavyweight division is poised for some waves. Wilder's return in no smart part will help with the potential Tsumami before us. Like with last year, the top-10/15 will be pushed into match-ups that will wet our appetites. I expect the best Ruiz to show up from his last showing onward. Wilder at 214lbs looked poised for explosive action. Joyce is the best face-first giant I have ever seen, and I absolutely think he'll be fun up until the shocking moment when the wheels suddenly come off, and I intuit they will. Hrgovic and Zhang have fun written across their foreheads. I expect Joshua's magic carpet ride is well over, yet, he might still be fun, just a few bouts away from retirement, IMO. I'd like to see Makhmudov tossed in against Ajagba.

    I'm all about throwing everything into the spin cycle.

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    • Bullrider
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      #12
      They didn't lie. They're just admitting they're wrong when they thought Wilder was the second coming of Mike Tyson, and that they didn't need nobody to augment his supposed popularity. Arrogant Finkel is now reaching out to Hearn, who he couldn't even communicate with by email, let alone by phone or in person. They're admitting without a proper dance partner he's basically average when it comes to the box office.

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      • BoxingParadigm
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        #13
        I'm pretty sure Wilder is terrified of Ruiz and regrets pretending he ever wanted to fight him. I'll bet my third nipple he never signs to fight Ruiz. FAX!

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        • Sctrojan
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          #14
          Originally posted by ßyke°rYder
          They didn't lie. They're just admitting they're wrong when they thought Wilder was the second coming of Mike Tyson, and that they didn't need nobody to augment his supposed popularity. Arrogant Finkel is now reaching out to Hearn, who he couldn't even communicate with by email, let alone by phone or in person. They're admitting without a proper dance partner he's basically average when it comes to the box office.
          "Average box office" is being generous to say the least. For that reason I think they swerve Ruiz. I mean Malik downplaying mandatories(Ruiz here) and interjecting this "mystery man" says as much if you ask me.

          Wilder vs Ruiz doesn't generate the profits/purses worth risking a possible career ending defeat for Wilder and company here. A fast handed,excellent combo punching inside fighter who has a chin like Ruiz will be a stylistic nightmare for someone with no inside game like Wilder. Once Ruiz slips past that right hand,very good chance he bodys Wilder and bad.

          Imo,they're going to feed him these "mystery men" lol until they can cash him out to Joshua.

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          • Hustle
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            #15
            Originally posted by 15round
            Wilder and team said after the Helenius fight they would sign to fight Ruiz. There were only a few punches thrown in that fight and Wilder should have been able to sign anytime. It has been over three months since that fight. What is the problem with him? They know Joshua isn't going to fight him.
            Wilder is waiting for Al to give him the date. We already know that fight is done.

            I heard wilder vs ruiz aint happening til August.

            Benavidez on ppv in march
            Tank on ppv in april
            Errol on ppv in June
            Wilder on ppv in August

            Last edited by Hustle; 01-23-2023, 12:09 PM.

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            • Bullrider
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              #16
              Originally posted by Sctrojan

              "Average box office" is being generous to say the least. For that reason I think they swerve Ruiz. I mean Malik downplaying mandatories(Ruiz here) and interjecting this "mystery man" says as much if you ask me.

              Wilder vs Ruiz doesn't generate the profits/purses worth risking a possible career ending defeat for Wilder and company here. A fast handed,excellent combo punching inside fighter who has a chin like Ruiz will be a stylistic nightmare for someone with no inside game like Wilder. Once Ruiz slips past that right hand,very good chance he bodys Wilder and bad.

              Imo,they're going to feed him these "mystery men" lol until they can cash him out to Joshua.
              I have yet to see the "mystery man" before concluding whether it's the typical waiting game play just like other PBC/SHO fighters are engaged in like Jermall and Ennis -- avoid risk to prevent derailing the money fights.

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              • juggernaut666
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                #17
                Originally posted by 15round
                Wilder and team said after the Helenius fight they would sign to fight Ruiz. There were only a few punches thrown in that fight and Wilder should have been able to sign anytime. It has been over three months since that fight. What is the problem with him? They know Joshua isn't going to fight him.
                Joshua hasn’t fought Wilder because Wilder said he was to busy when he was offered the fight or any kind of negotiations in August 2022 . Only to get back to Hearn in October with ridiculous claims he wanted more money bc of Joshua’s loss but now Wilder has just exposed himself on his own PPV numbers ain his last fight which were horrendous so ?

                Deontay Wilder has blasted Eddie Hearn for lacking confidence in Anthony Joshua, and trying to make a fight between the pair before the Oleksandr Usyk rematch had even taken place.”

                Read carefully. TRYING to make the fight yet you guys insist it’s Joshua running ? ​Only one guy has consistently made excuses not to make the fight for 5 years now and we know who that is ,the forum is so dense most the times it’s really unbelievable to see some humans actually are this ****** ? Lol

                As far as Wilder lying well yea that’s what he does best ,he also said he’d fight the winner of Joshua vs Ruiz rematch only to say he didn’t like Joshua’s performance despite him winning every round and said the fight isn’t going to happen now ?
                Last edited by juggernaut666; 01-23-2023, 07:38 PM.

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                • SN!PER
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                  #18


                  Are ya'll gonna give Deontay credit when he knocks out Ruiz?

                  Or will you say Andy has gone soft and lost his motivation?

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                  • Bullrider
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by SN!PER

                    Are ya'll gonna give Deontay credit when he knocks out Ruiz?

                    Or will you say Andy has gone soft and lost his motivation?
                    That won't happen if the fight is not made. Anything can happen in boxing, especially in the heavier division.

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