Comments Thread For: Devin Haney: I'll Show That Vasiliy Lomachenko Is Not A Master Boxer

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Also it's clear that urban fighters have hate for Loma.

Breadman has talked a lot about it in his mailbags.
He said many fighters call Loma a fraud in an irrational way when dude is a double Olympic champ and 3 divisions champ in a bunch of fights. Breadman said himself that Loma is a truly great fighter and he didn't understand it.

The reasons of this hate, overly critical behavior are pretty much obvious so I won't get into it.

Does that have something to do with why you are trying to downplay it if Haney wins? Because he is an "urban fighter?"

That sword cuts both ways.

[BillyBoxing]

Does that have something to do with why you are trying to downplay it if Haney wins? Because he is an "urban fighter?"

That sword cuts both ways.

I might downplay THE WIN with facts: smaller, older, often injured lately, arguably lost 2 fight in his last 4.

But I won't downplay Haney as a fighter. It's not his fault if loma is old and fighting at 135.

CONTEXT is important, Loma fighting Haney in his 35+ at 135 is like Haney in his 30s fighting a Guy like Ennis at 147.

So Haney and his groupies should be more humble and respectfull of Loma because Haney taking such a fight, a uber talent at 147 remains to be seen. Until now his best win is Kambozoe.

[djtmal]

ODLH dominated Pernell and Chavez in the same way, doesn't make him greater.


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Sorry Oscar didn't dominate Pernell.

[BillyBoxing]

Sorry Oscar didn't dominate Pernell.

You are right, the good example was Trinidad vs Withtaker

[djtmal]

You are right, the good example was Trinidad vs Withtaker

Yes all credit to Tito

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No Fury's weight advantage doesn't count, heavyweights often have massive "weight" advantages it's not unusual e.g. Miller vs Duhaupas, AJ vs Ruiz, Musina vs Carnera, Wlad vs Haye, Haye vs Valuev so on and so forth.

If you ever been license and been in a ring with a fighter that had a weight advantage you will feel it everytime they azz lean on you. Anyhow,...

Who could know back in the day that there would be more than a few giants fighting in the heavyweight division?? Marciano was a heavyweight at 188 pounds. Lennox Lewis, the klitchko brothers, Rid**** Bowe or fury's 277 POUND punk-azz would stomp Marciano little azz into the ground like a rivet, if he were still alive and boxing today. Sooner or later you gotta admit I'm tellin the TRUTH.

Emanuel talked about creating a super heavyweight division, ALL THE TIME, so he knows like I know. You folks just never been in a ring.

A weight advantage is a weight advantage...it doesn't matter what division you're in.

fury's 40 POUND weight advantage does count that's why his punk-azz put on that extra weight. fury's team already admitted he purposely put on the extra weight to have a size advantage and because they knew they could get away with it. I am NOT making this up. Imagine what happens to fury if he gets in the ring at a normal weight. fury probably would never wake up.


At the end of the day Deontay still floored his azz several times and knocked him OUT if you look at fury's face and his eyes. fury was out cold. Just cause he got his azz up don't mean jak. Everybody in boxin know fury-azz was sleep.

If you don't believe me, just google "fury putting on extra weight to fight" or somethin to that effect, it'll pop up. But who could know fury ignorant azz would come into a fight weighing a ridiculous 277 pounds?? The heavyweight division needs a weight limit right now. And then create the super heavyweight division Emanuel Stewart talked about.

Deontay or his people should have demanded a weight limit, but who could have known fury punk-azz would try such a stunt??

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Stylistically, I think Haney is not the most difficult fight for Lomachenko.

It is a difficult fight, but I can envision Lomachenko doing better than Kambosos Junior.

I have not really seen Haney use much of a inside game. While Lomachenko has a really good inside game.

When Lomachenko is fighting his best fight tactically, he is operating mostly from Mid-Range and with his inside game.

I think the challenged for Lomachenko vs Haney, is a similar to challenge Alvarez has to beat Bivol.

Both Lomachenko & Alvarez need to impress their inside game. And they need to do it with extreme intensity.

The issue I stated that Alvarez has vs Bivol. Was that he does not really have the gears or endurance to impress his inside game.

If Alvarez could improve his endurance by 10-15%, and fight the right kind of fight tactically vs Bivol 'Then it is a extremely close fight'.

In comparison to Alvarez, Lomachenko has great endurance and he has multiple gears which he can shift through on the offense.

So that is why I am giving Lomachenko a chance to really push Devin Haney.

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The problem with Loma is he fights one way, if that’s not working, he hasn’t got any major adjustments. That’s why he couldn’t deal with a long jab and pivot v Lopez for 6 rounds, he just kept trying the same things. He only had success when Lopez started getting less disciplined with the game plan until he got back on it near the end.

Usyk is similar, I thought he arguably lost to Briedis. It was clearly a close fight that could go either way but he just kept doing the same thing round after round and let it get to a razor thin decision.

they are masters at Plan A, but doesn’t seem to have a great deal of options after that. It’s just most can’t deal with their plan A.

This is one b.s. comment. Seven thumbs up are just pure tribalism. When Loma broke his thumb he adjusted or are you that ignorrant of that fight. To think Teo had anything of value in those first 6 rounds just negates your logic. He did nothing. Loma clearly was hurt. Loma has plan A, B & C. He's ready for and has seen everything in his 382 fights before the pros. You just want to diss Loma cause you have a hidden agenda. Bravo. You failed.

[TDLand]

Ain't nobody applaudin Loma punk-azz for takin a azz whuppin. Are you on drugs?? We collectin our money ******.That's why it's called prize fightin .lol..Just come up with some better excuses on why you lost money, cause Loma's gettin ready to get his azz whupped! dummy.

Idiot alert. There is a thing called a 'g'. Like ****ing ******.

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If Haney vs Lomachenko is on free ESPN that would be amazing. Hope Top Rank can pull that off!