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  • #51
    Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post

    Probably because the individual fighters themselves are not signed with pbc, or Haymon isn’t their “advisor”..but who knows
    Cameron Dunkin needs to get on the same level as TGB, Samson Boxing, Sean Gibbons, etc.! Boots and Brandun need to be signed to PBC, or they're gonna keep getting treated like Stepchildren!

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
      No they did not! They're keeping their IBF #1 spot, but someone at PBC said Thurman or Stanionis (when we all thought we were getting Spence vs. Crawford) however, things changed quickly! WBC orders Spence vs. Thurman, WBA orders Stanionis vs. Ortiz Jr., and IBF does nothing! That (IBF) won't last long, but I think Spence will be gone from 147 after Thurman, and if not, only to fight Crawford! Dunkin is banking on IBF!
      So they didn't really want stanionis did they!

      Thanks.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by tokon View Post

        So they didn't really want stanionis did they!

        Thanks.
        It was useless to ask, because Jaron "Boots" Ennis is WBA #2, and Vergil Ortiz is WBA #1. They can't leap frog Vergil for Stanionis. However, had the WBA never ordered Stanionis vs. Ortiz Jr., Stanionis could've made the deal! Boots still IBF #1, so Spence has to see him, sooner or later...

        Jaron Ennis says Terence Crawford and Errol Spence holding up the division but top guys can’t avoid him for long

        ​During a video interview with Fight Hype, welterweight contender Jaron Ennis talks about his upcoming interim title fight with Karen Chukhadzhian before going on to talk about his difficulties in securing the biggest names at welterweight.

        Ennis admits he may need to be more outspoken in order to force their hand, but believes his talent will ultimately get him where he needs to go. Check out some excerpts of what Ennis had to say below.

        Ennis on how he plans to land the marquee fights he wants being a high-risk, low-reward opponent

        “I feel like my talent and my skills do enough. But I do feel like I need to talk a little bit more but I’m not with the talking, I’m ready to do damage and get in that ring and show you better than I can tell you. That’s the difference between me and them. I ain’t all talk, I’m only bite.”

        On what he made of Terence Crawford saying his name never came up as he made fight with David Avanesyan

        “That don’t make sense. How my name didn’t come up at all when I’m ranked higher than the guy he fought? So, didn’t make any sense. Everybody know I want the fight with him, Spence — whoever else out there — Keith Thurman, Ugas. All these top guys. Stanionis — all these guys. I want Vergil Ortiz.

        “I want to fight all of these guys and they know that. And, I don’t know, I feel like they try to go around me. I mean, they can’t do that for too long, though.”

        On being frustrated that these top guys won’t fight him but aren’t fighting one another either

        “That’s how I feel. Either ya’ll fight each other or fight me. It’s like, they gotta do something. I feel like they holding it up a little bit. But either way, I feel like I’ll fight one of those guys soon whether it’s at ‘47 or ‘54.”

        On having a deal with Showtime but maybe needing to go to another platform to fight Crawford

        “Definitely. I’m just that hungry and when you that hungry you willing to go anywhere. I’ll go to his living room and fight him so it really don’t matter to me. I just want to show my skills and my talent and show the world that I’m really that guy, that I’m the best in this weight class. And me going to whatever platform he on or go to his hometown and taking that belt from him and doing it in a beautiful fashion, that’s what I want to do. If I gotta do it, I’m gonna do it.”

        On if he really thinks he’ll get a shot at Spence by winning the interim IBF title or if he thinks Spence might just move up

        “It’s boxing so you don’t know what he’s thinking. I feel like he will fight me, and hopefully after I do my thing and stop this guy on the 7th that could be next.”

        On if Spence or Crawford is the tougher fight for him

        “I don’t know. I can’t say because you don’t know until you get in there. I feel like the better my competition is, the better I’m gonna be and the easier it’ll be for me.”

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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          Khan would be a “best name” on Boots’ resume? You have got to be joking.

          But let’s just go with your flow. Boots is going to fight Karen Chukhadzhyan next. Karen is 22-1 and is ranked 4th by the IBF. The winner gets a shot at Spence’s IBF belt. So according you, Karen would be one of the best names on Boots’ resume?

          I’ve seen you post a lot here and assume you’re a boxing fan (not a casual), how in the world would you imagine Khan being a “best name” for Boots?

          To give you context, PAC fought Mathysse, Broner and Brandon Rios. PAC is an ATG and all those three guys were coming off losses and irrelevant at 147, would you ever think those fights were warranted?
          Boots is s the highest rated prospect of any weight. Everyone says he’s ready for a title fight including his own team. He is 29-0 and most believe he can hang with the likes of Spence and Bud (I believe he KO’s Bud. That’s why Bud went after Avanesyan instead of him but that’s another tale).
          For him to fight Khan or anyone not named Crawford, Spence or Ortiz is a waste of time at this point.
          given that I've only heard of the last 5 guys that Boots has fought? And the guy he's fighting next, I've never heard of? Come on, you know he has a weak resume. He needs better representation.
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          • #55
            Originally posted by Knuckle sandwich View Post

            If I was boots I wouldn't hang around at 147, he is talented enough and huge at the weight to fight at 154/160, and be successful, the fights against Crawford, and Spence would probably materialise at some point down the line, Spence at 154?
            —-/-//——
            If you’re chasing legacy which also means a truckload of money will come your way, WW is usually the richest division in terms of talent, opponents and wealth. Boots is already 29-0 and has no problems making weight so he has to force these guys to fight him by disrupting their interviews or public work outs. That’s exactly what Antonio Tarver did to Roy Jones. It worked.
            Boots can always catch up with the 154 guys. There aren’t too many at this point so he’d end up being avoided by everyone else if was to go after Charlo and beat Charlo.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

              given that I've only heard of the last 5 guys that Boots has fought? And the guy he's fighting next, I've never heard of? Come on, you know he has a weak resume. He needs better representation.
              ———-
              I’m speaking of Amir Khan specifically. Khan was never a contender at WW. He was just a gate keeper who happened to be well known globally and brought money to his fights.
              Boots beating Khan would do nothing to his resume.
              More important, unlike Khan, nobody wants to fight Boors. High risk, low reward.

              Let’s just say Crawford was telling the truth about Spence, he wasn’t, but let’s just say he was.
              Why not go after Boots? Boots would have accepted the same amount of money Avanesyan got. And Boots is someone we’ve all heard of. I never heard of Avanesyan until Crawford went after him.
              (I had never heard of Chris Algieri or Jeff Horn until PAC went after them and I can assure you that none of PAC fans had ever heard of those guys). That’s the best context I can give

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              • #57
                Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
                After being forced to twiddle his thumbs and play the waiting game, Jaron "Boots" Ennis reluctantly accepted that his hard work will go unrewarded...at least for now. Although the 25-year-old phenom has successfully worked his way to the mandatory position in the IBF sanctioning body, a showdown against Errol Spence Jr. had become increasingly unlikely.
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                Since again Spence will only fight one time in 2023. He has only had 1 fight in the last 18 months. Talk about the 600 day Keef fight plan. I'd advise Ennis and his daddy to put in that WBO petition for a Crawford mandatory since Ortiz Jr and Oscar don;t want it and his fanbase thinks Crawford is piece of cake 2 time lineal, undisputed. Easy money, Ennis, to get the WBO belt. Then you are already over at showtime with Spence for undisputed. No beef between Haymon and Espinoza. You mailed in a petition to IBF. Why not the WBO?

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
                  ———-
                  I’m speaking of Amir Khan specifically. Khan was never a contender at WW. He was just a gate keeper who happened to be well known globally and brought money to his fights.
                  Boots beating Khan would do nothing to his resume.
                  More important, unlike Khan, nobody wants to fight Boors. High risk, low reward.

                  Let’s just say Crawford was telling the truth about Spence, he wasn’t, but let’s just say he was.
                  Why not go after Boots? Boots would have accepted the same amount of money Avanesyan got. And Boots is someone we’ve all heard of. I never heard of Avanesyan until Crawford went after him.
                  (I had never heard of Chris Algieri or Jeff Horn until PAC went after them and I can assure you that none of PAC fans had ever heard of those guys). That’s the best context I can give
                  I don't even know why you're bringing up Pac or Khan....they are both retired. You never heard of Algieri before the Pac fight? They were trying to position a Pac vs Provodnikov fight, but Algieri beat the Russian. If you followed boxing at the time, you should have heard of him. And quit defending Boots' resume. It's weak. You know it's weak. Nobody is saying Khan is great. It's Boots' resume that it weak. Hell, I like the guy, but I have never seen him in a fight that he wasn't favored to win by a large margin.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

                    I don't even know why you're bringing up Pac or Khan....they are both retired. You never heard of Algieri before the Pac fight? They were trying to position a Pac vs Provodnikov fight, but Algieri beat the Russian. If you followed boxing at the time, you should have heard of him. And quit defending Boots' resume. It's weak. You know it's weak. Nobody is saying Khan is great. It's Boots' resume that it weak. Hell, I like the guy, but I have never seen him in a fight that he wasn't favored to win by a large margin.
                    ———
                    Khan’s name appears here because you (or maybe someone else?) said it would be a good name of Boots’ resume. I disagree with that.
                    I was giving a similar example for context by showing Manny’s resume and the guys he fought.
                    I did know of Algieri (he’s from LI) and I have my dates wrong. I thought he fought Manny first and then got famous off that loss. I stand corrected.

                    I don’t disagree with you about Boots resume. My point is, nobody wants to fight him.
                    Don’t you think Crawford should have fought Boots instead of Avanesyan?

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
                      ———
                      Khan’s name appears here because you (or maybe someone else?) said it would be a good name of Boots’ resume. I disagree with that.
                      I was giving a similar example for context by showing Manny’s resume and the guys he fought.
                      I did know of Algieri (he’s from LI) and I have my dates wrong. I thought he fought Manny first and then got famous off that loss. I stand corrected.

                      I don’t disagree with you about Boots resume. My point is, nobody wants to fight him.
                      Don’t you think Crawford should have fought Boots instead of Avanesyan?
                      I would have liked to see Crawford fight Boots, but there was no $10 million dollar offer to fight Boots. I don't know who approached Crawford with that offer to fight Avanesyan, but everybody saying he shouldn't have taken that fight would have taken that fight. Boots needs a new team. Nobody is going to give him any handouts. I don't think his team is doing him any favors. Right now, the winner or Ortiz-Stanionis will be ahead of Boots for a title shot. Their teams got them the fights to move ahead.

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